The Rugby Thread

[Tredman]

Did this just for you paddy:

 

[Johnny75]

Oh $#@!ing behave.

Hahaha. The TMO got both decisions right tonight according to most of the world's reliable pundits/ commentators, but I would be pissed off If it was given against England, even though it was a correct decision. However you just look more bitter with every post. It is quite hilarious.

What would make me laugh more is if Wales went out by one point to England. I'm sure the mushroom cloud would be visible from Twickenham.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Sorry that's garbage the games v Aus and Wales will decide the group, if Wales are going to batter Fiji as you said I really don't know why your so upset.

I'm not actually that upset. Obviously, England missing out on a four try bonus point might have come in handy, but the games between ourselves and the convicts are going to be the key for sure.

My view is you got away with it there. But the points are on the board, and (assuming we dont do anything stupid on Sunday) then it sets it up brilliantly for next Saturday.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Hahaha. The TMO got both decisions right tonight according to most of the world's reliable pundits/ commentators, but I would be pissed off If it was given against England, even though it was a correct decision.mmhowever you just look more bitter with every post. It is quite hilarious.

What would make me laugh more is if Wales went out by one point to England. I'm sure the mushroom cloud would be visible from Twickenham.

Are you planning this for the entire world cup? I can't put you on ignore for it as I am a mod, but if I could, I would

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yes he was. For me he was. But I am coming from the other side of your fence. England got two decisions tonight with the TMO, and it sets them up for the rest of the group.

The Vunipola try isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact, the ball touched the line and it wasn't two distinct movements, try. There is no nuance, same as with the goal line technology in football now, it's either in or it isn't. Doesn't matter who you support!

We got lucky with the disallowed try, even though it was the right decision. Had it been given it would have been down to the clown with the whistle awarding it when neither he nor his touch judge could possibly have seen the ball being cleanly grounded. So while we got a slice of luck - once he'd given it, he shouldn't have then arbitrarily reviewed it having seen HIS error on the big screen - it can only be the proper thing for the game that we got the right call in the end.

 

[Bit on the shaggies]

That late try and bonus point makes it seem as if England had a comfortable evening. Nothing could be further from the truth. England need to improve an awful lot for the two big games that await them.

That was a big game Frank. Fiji are no pushover side. They play very physical rugby and their scrum was a problem for France too last time they played. I'm more than happy with that display on the opening day.

I've no doubt we'll be more disciplined against both Wales and Australia now we've got this one out of the way and have a bonus point win in the bag.

 

[Johnny75]

Are you planning this for the entire world cup? I can't put you on ignore for it as I am a mod, but if I could, I would

Are you going to be this wound up all World Cup? If so I'll get more popcorn in.

 

[Johnny75]

doubled up

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

My view is, whether the right decision being arrived on the Fiji non-try (and it clearly was not a try) is the case, the idea of a referee seeing it on the screen and changing his view is just a dreadful piece of officiating. That isn't England's fault at all, but the referee has really made a mess there.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

One game into the world cup and people are falling out. This could be a long six weeks.

 

[visage]

Did this just for you paddy:

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That's pretty obviously touching the line.

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[Paddingtonwolf]

Are you going to be this wound up all World Cup? If so I'll get more popcorn in.

No. Off on holiday tomorrow. So I won't be around for a week. Are you going to still be a bellend when I get back?

 

[Bit on the shaggies]

My view is, whether the right decision being arrived on the Fiji non-try (and it clearly was not a try) is the case, the idea of a referee seeing it on the screen and changing his view is just a dreadful piece of officiating. That isn't England's fault at all, but the referee has really made a mess there.

You must agree though that the mistake was not reviewing it straight away and that , in the end, no harm was done.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That's pretty obviously touching the line.

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It also isn't clearly under control

 

[Johnny75]

No. Off on holiday tomorrow. So I won't be around for a week. Are you going to still be a bellend when I get back?

Let it out Paddy it'll do you good. You've been wanting to for a long time.

 

[Tredman]

No. Off on holiday tomorrow. So I won't be around for a week. Are you going to still be a bellend when I get back?

Calm down its the first game. Don't get banned for the World Cup, as I'm looking forward to the meltdown next week

 

[Bit on the shaggies]

It also isn't clearly under control

With due respect, that's horseshit and I think you know it.

 

[Parkins left foot]

My view is, whether the right decision being arrived on the Fiji non-try (and it clearly was not a try) is the case, the idea of a referee seeing it on the screen and changing his view is just a dreadful piece of officiating. That isn't England's fault at all, but the referee has really made a mess there.

Not entirely the Refs fault (& I don't think he had a great game) - replays shouldn't be shown, unless part of a TMO review, until well after the event. Once the try was given without review it should have stood, if it is the wrong decision then they happen in all games , you just have to learn to deal with it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

My view is, whether the right decision being arrived on the Fiji non-try (and it clearly was not a try) is the case, the idea of a referee seeing it on the screen and changing his view is just a dreadful piece of officiating. That isn't England's fault at all, but the referee has really made a mess there.

Of course he has, I don't think anyone disputes that. If we're at another ground that doesn't have a big screen and all the TMO decisions are made exclusively by the man in the booth - not sure if all these grounds do have screens, Gloucester and Exeter probably don't - then the try gets given and Twitter explodes at what a shocker of a decision it was. It's endemic of a very poor referee and I expect the IRB to be pulling him up on not checking properly as he is required to do. He also didn't check Fiji's try properly, the catch and grounding was never in question. We needed to see if the scorer was in front of the ball when it was kicked and we never did - it might all have been fine of course but he isn't to know that.

However - was Fiji's try legal, no, and it didn't count. Was our final try legal, yes, the evidence is right there on this page, and it did. I don't think either can really be questioned at all in that sense, so in the end, through an iffy mechanism in the first case, everything worked out as it should have.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

You must agree though that the mistake was not reviewing it straight away and that , in the end, no harm was done.

Yes. I would absolutely agree. And the right decision was reached. But that doesn't change the fact it was poor officiating. England and Fiji had a poor referee for me tonight. The final result was correct, as was the margin, but the man in the middle was poor, for both sides.