The Rugby Thread

[Paddingtonwolf]

Care? He was pinged harshly, but he really shouldnt have been on the wrong side where he was. It was a clear penalty but a yellow seemed a bit OTT for me.

 

[BillyDee]

Sorry, autocorrect. Yes meant Care. Clear penalty, but harsh yellow.

Incidentally, autocorrect keeps autocorrecting to autocorrelation. A word I use all the ducking time...

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Hahahaha. I like that!

 

[jd1981]

What happened 6 months ago will still be fresh in many people's minds, England will be desperate for revenge for that game. You'd still have to say England are slight favourites with home advantage.

 

[Paul]

Watched a bit of the England game last, still can't get my head round what the referee is giving penalties for.

Being English
Being Tall
Daring to ask why the previous three penalties the Irish had committed had been ignored.

 

[BillyDee]

I did find myself wondering why given that so much time was taken trying to decide if an English player had kicked an Irish player in the head, that no one considered that if said Irish player had actually released the ball it could have been legitimately kicked away cleanly? Or is that a bit harshly partisan?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Being English
Being Tall
Daring to ask why the previous three penalties the Irish had committed had been ignored.

Of course, that was exactly what it was.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I did find myself wondering why given that so much time was taken trying to decide if an English player had kicked an Irish player in the head, that no one considered that if said Irish player had actually released the ball it could have been legitimately kicked away cleanly? Or is that a bit harshly partisan?

You can't kick a player's head basically. However, I am reminded of what a New Zealand player said about a player on the wrong side getting some boot treatment. "Come on ref, we aren't playing bloody marbles here".

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I did find myself wondering why given that so much time was taken trying to decide if an English player had kicked an Irish player in the head, that no one considered that if said Irish player had actually released the ball it could have been legitimately kicked away cleanly? Or is that a bit harshly partisan?

With my biased head on I couldn't see a lot wrong with what he did, it was there to be got at (and this is a man who thinks Mike Brown (good player mind) is a sneaky little twat who wouldnt be half as brave back in the day when second rows were allowed to smack anybody whom acted the knob), I thought the debate was on who to card for holding on in the ruck.

Anyhows people chat about English lack of discipline but its only a few players Haskell, Cole, Farrell, Marler (in the scrum), rest are more or less grand (even Dylan), get them sorted and discipline is not an issue. especially as Haskell and Cole wont be first choice this time next year.

Apart from that, if there is a second world war film being shot this year then Owen Farrell is a natural for being one of the Hitler Youth!

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I thought the debutant centre for Ireland (can't remember his name!) looked very good, especially in attack. Needs to work on his defence though.

That was McCloskey will be a good player has all the attributes, agree needs to work on his defence possibly didnt help either that it was Henshaw's first international as outside centre, funnily enough think it would have suited him better if he had someone like Doctor Jamie running in straight lines at him rather then Farrell/Joseph.

 

[Dinowolf]

I thought Marler was pinged unfairly by the Linesman early on. At one point Stander the Irish 6 was pulling Marlers arm down but nothing was given. Then Cole was pinged by the ref. for changing his binding but the ref. ignored the fact that the Irish 1 had lost his binding altogether and gone down causing the scrum to collapse and that Cole changed his own binding so he didn't follow him.

There were other instances throughout the game where both sides lost out to poor refereeing decisions.

Let's hope Joubert is better for the Wales game.

 

[Dinowolf]

Forgot to say that I thought all three full debutantes had good games.
Itoje for England and McCloskey and Van de Flyer for Ireland.

 

[Jabbawolf]

Let's hope Joubert is better for the Wales game.

The Joubert that scarpered off the pitch after denying Scotland a win over the Aussies??

 

[Dinowolf]

The Joubert that scarpered off the pitch after denying Scotland a win over the Aussies??

That's the one.

He's still better than Poite who we have just had.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I thought Marler was pinged unfairly by the Linesman early on. At one point Stander the Irish 6 was pulling Marlers arm down but nothing was given. Then Cole was pinged by the ref. for changing his binding but the ref. ignored the fact that the Irish 1 had lost his binding altogether and gone down causing the scrum to collapse and that Cole changed his own binding so he didn't follow him.

There were other instances throughout the game where both sides lost out to poor refereeing decisions.

Let's hope Joubert is better for the Wales game.

Aye our first penalty even the RTE commentators agreed that Cole was hard done by on that one.

 

[Dinowolf]

Mike Brown is in the clear for his rucking and accidental kicking of Connor Murray, so is available to play against Wales.

 

[Tredman]

Alex Goode needs to start anyway. Brown seems to have lost the ability to beat the first defender.

 

[Dinowolf]

Alex Goode needs to start anyway. Brown seems to have lost the ability to beat the first defender.

Sorry mate, disagree that Goode should play. Mike Brown is a safe pair of hands who is willing to take contact and is brilliant at taking the high ball.

 

[Tredman]

Sorry mate, disagree that Goode should play. Mike Brown is a safe pair of hands who is willing to take contact and is brilliant at taking the high ball.

I agree with all of that, but he used to offer a really good attacking threat too - that was his big difference as a full back. That seems to have all gone now.

Goode is something special and as Billy or Nowell seem to be under the high balls as much now I think it's time to give him a chance, at least against France if we want to stick with the safe option against the Pulis-ball like Welsh.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Not biting...