The Royals

[Wilf Wolf]

Daily Mail readers will be sat reading it in their beige cardigans and twin sets nodding their heads in agreement. It’s hardly a shock that papers pander to their readers. The press exist to make money and push agendas, they have no interest in the truth.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Honestly, i hate that we are ruled by a King who was born into that role, supposedly "put there by God", i hate that our elected PM has to swear allegiance to him, that the national anthem isn't about the people of this country, but about hoping the King lives forever, reigning over us, I hate that the King's brother is at best friends with a huge paedo, at worst is one himself, i hate that we don't have a choice as to whether this Family "reigns over us", we just have to put up with it and that things like "inviting us to swear allegiance to the King" is perfectly normal and is ok, and of course i hate that we have to pay for the privilege of it all. Ace

And no it doesn't effect my life on a day to day basis, but neither does Boris Johnson, that doesn't mean that we can't all think he's a massive cunt and hate everything that he stands for.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's the opinion of one idiot who owns a newspaper.

You could do what I do and ignore it for what it is, an opinion.

The King has invited us to swear allegiance to him, that's a fact, not an opinion?

 

[Alan]

Obviously an outsider here, but isn't it more effort and money to maintain the Royals than to be rid of them?

Seems to me that if they really have no influence then there's no need to keep the charade going.

 

[BillyDee]

The King has invited us to swear allegiance to him, that's a fact, not an opinion?

Yes, invited. Feel free to decline the invitation.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Yes, invited. Feel free to decline the invitation.

I was responding to Johny who was suggesting i had been triggered by the Daily Mail, or that their Front Page wasn't accurate, that it was an opinion. It is (for once) accurate.

 

[Del Woppio]

Obviously an outsider here, but isn't it more effort and money to maintain the Royals than to be rid of them?

Seems to me that if they really have no influence then there's no need to keep the charade going.

Yup. They're realistically just ceremonial expenses. The flag shaggers will go on about constitutional significance, history and tourism, but in reality they're just parasites living on stolen wealth

 

[leedswolf]

The King has invited us to swear allegiance to him, that's a fact, not an opinion?

I like the underlining of ALL in the headline. Comes over as a command to the readership.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Honestly, i hate that we are ruled by a King who was born into that role, supposedly "put there by God", i hate that our elected PM has to swear allegiance to him, that the national anthem isn't about the people of this country, but about hoping the King lives forever, reigning over us, I hate that the King's brother is at best friends with a huge paedo, at worst is one himself, i hate that we don't have a choice as to whether this Family "reigns over us", we just have to put up with it and that things like "inviting us to swear allegiance to the King" is perfectly normal and is ok, and of course i hate that we have to pay for the privilege of it all. Ace

And no it doesn't effect my life on a day to day basis, but neither does Boris Johnson, that doesn't mean that we can't all think he's a massive cunt and hate everything that he stands for.

Yeah but day off

 

[Keef]

I’ll come clean here,
I have in my life swore an oath to the queen and her successors, took the shilling and went off to do my bit in Operations Banner ( Northern Ireland) and Granby (first gulf war) that was then.
Now, tbh to probably misquote Billy Connelly they can get tae fuck.
Ive met
Charles, quite small proper pear shaped he is, his tailor earns his money hiding it.

Duke of Edinburgh was great, really interested in what we were doing, spent way more time with us than he was supposed to, told his aide to “bugger off I’ll be out when I’m ready, not when you tell me to” the spent another hour or so chatting shit with the group.

Prince Edward, took after his dad, was friendly and took a real interest and quite funny as well

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I must have missed the referendum on whether we should have a Royal Family or not, that's a choice.

You've got loads of choices, specifically on that headline it's completely your choice if you swear an oath to the new king, just do nothing.

If the royals are really such a blight on your life then you've again got choices, you could start a republican campaign against them, hell you could even raise your own army like Cromwell and take some positive action against them if you're really that bothered. Probably have about about as much impact as your single vote in amongst millions when it comes to election time.

 

[Paul]

Obviously an outsider here, but isn't it more effort and money to maintain the Royals than to be rid of them?

Seems to me that if they really have no influence then there's no need to keep the charade going.

" While its annual contribution to the UK economy was £1.76bn in 2017 alone. Meanwhile, for the taxpayer, the annual cost per head is roughly 1p a day."
The revenue from Crown properties is three times what they cost a year. (about £100m or half a Neymar)

 

[Tony Towner]

Obviously an outsider here, but isn't it more effort and money to maintain the Royals than to be rid of them?

Seems to me that if they really have no influence then there's no need to keep the charade going.

I agree, but any opinion poll you care to read says there is still a healthy majority that favours them, although that percentage is declining over time. Whilst that continues they'll stay in their ceremonial role

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

" While its annual contribution to the UK economy was £1.76bn in 2017 alone. Meanwhile, for the taxpayer, the annual cost per head is roughly 1p a day."
The revenue from Crown properties is three times what they cost a year. (about £100m or half a Neymar)

Bless.

 

[Tredman]

wills and Kate pegged themselves onto the front page there.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

And no it doesn't effect my life on a day to day basis, but neither does Boris Johnson, that doesn't mean that we can't all think he's a massive cunt and hate everything that he stands for.

Boris Johnson did affect our day to day lives and his legacy still does and will do for decades.

Doubt King Charles will ever hit those "heights".

 

[Alan]

I agree, but any opinion poll you care to read says there is still a healthy majority that favours them, although that percentage is declining over time. Whilst that continues they'll stay in their ceremonial role

I guess this is what I'm getting at tbh. It seems clear that they do still have a fair deal of influence, even if it isn't in the obvious sort of "God put me in charge, do everything I say" kind of way.

 

[Templeton Peck]

I guess this is what I'm getting at tbh. It seems clear that they do still have a fair deal of influence, even if it isn't in the obvious sort of "God put me in charge, do everything I say" kind of way.

Of course they do. Takes about 20 seconds of Google to discover that. Soft power can be used for good or bad obviously, trouble is with a monarch you don't get to choose or get rid.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Obviously an outsider here, but isn't it more effort and money to maintain the Royals than to be rid of them?

Seems to me that if they really have no influence then there's no need to keep the charade going.

It’s nothing to do with money - The republicans stance is very uncomplicated, but the royalists have to wrestle with a desire to protect heritage offset by the appalling privilege and the subsequent abuse of it.

In an age where we are very alert to the need for equal opportunity and the damaging consequences of privilege, a family that are the epitome of that are increasingly hard to justify.

I just don’t see how royalists square that one.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Of course they do. Takes about 20 seconds of Google to discover that. Soft power can be used for good or bad obviously, trouble is with a monarch you don't get to choose or get rid.

Given their steadily declining popularity there’s a big incentive to use their soft power for good.