The Royals

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Less than 30% in favour of a republic on that link.

Shows there's almost no appetite for it any time soon so you'll be disappointed in your lifetime.

I think 30% is pretty high? Especially when you throw in the "don't knows"

It's a lot higher than is currently being portrayed by the media, so in my view that's a positive. I think a few years of Charles rather than the Queen might see it significantly change too.

 

[Johnny75]

I think 30% is pretty high? Especially when you throw in the "don't knows"

It's a lot higher than is currently being portrayed by the media, so in my view that's a positive. I think a few years of Charles rather than the Queen might see it significantly change too.

You can't really throw in the don't knows.

And it's a huge minority. As in not even close.

Charles is strong in the environment and that is a good thing. Doubt he'll be anything other than neutral on a lot of things and his speech on Friday was very good.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

He hasn't come across badly in the formal setting, but things like his weird anger at all things involving pens aren't helping his popularity, however, i guess once the dust has settled after the funeral and then the coronation (in the spring of 23 maybe?) we won't get to see such candid moments.

So yeah, you're probably right, it's incredibly unlikely.

I'm just surprised that it's as high as almost 1 in 3 people that are pro republic, it doesn't feel like that anecdotally or as i said from how the media are portraying things at the moment.

 

[Johnny75]

He hasn't come across badly in the formal setting, but things like his weird anger at all things involving pens aren't helping his popularity, however, i guess once the dust has settled after the funeral and then the coronation (in the spring of 23 maybe?) we won't get to see such candid moments.

So yeah, you're probably right, it's incredibly unlikely.

I'm just surprised that it's as high as almost 1 in 3 people that are pro republic, it doesn't feel like that anecdotally or as i said from how the media are portraying things at the moment.

It isn't.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

When things get back to normal (as normal as the UK is in 2022, as I said the other day, look at the fucking state of the place compared to 2002) then most people will never ever ever think about the Royal Family day to day.

 

[Lupo]

his weird anger at all things involving pens

It is worth remembering what he is going through at the moment. It is very easy to forget the fact that they are humans experiencing human emotions such as grief like anyone else. Its what he has been bred into but all the official duties he has been required to fulfil in the 6 days since his mother died must be very difficult. He has shown his emotion on a few occasions but managed to keep his composure.

I don't know whether he has a weird anger involving pens previously, maybe he has!

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

This side of a revolution a republic isn’t realistically happening. There is no need for the royal family to step aside and constitutional law does sort of work. There will be those that wail and gnash teeth like me, but there will be a royal on the throne when I go into my box.

 

[Keef]

His getting angry at a pen is irrelevant.
He’s just lost his mom.
He’s having to go straight into a new job, which is massive responsibility.
He’s been grieving, has a new job, is having to tour the country to meet people re his new job, and about his mom.
He’s constantly on camera while doing all the above, is on every news channel everywhere.
His stress levels atm must be off the scale, I’d have got way angrier at much more than a pen, and way quicker.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It isn't.

29% is pretty close to 33%? No?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I want to see how he deals with a printer. The Ronald Zubar of office equipment. Would make Harry Secombe rage.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

His getting angry at a pen is irrelevant.
He’s just lost his mom.
He’s having to go straight into a new job, which is massive responsibility.
He’s been grieving, has a new job, is having to tour the country to meet people re his new job, and about his mom.
He’s constantly on camera while doing all the above, is on every news channel everywhere.
His stress levels atm must be off the scale, I’d have got way angrier at much more than a pen, and way quicker.

Well there's these little moments too, not sure it's ever acceptable to treat people like this, makes you wonder what he is like in private to be honest? No?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1568605902453833730

https://twitter.com/x/status/1568638996732837889

 

[Johnny75]

29% is pretty close to 33%? No?

No. As close as it is to 25%

 

[Lupo]

His getting angry at a pen is irrelevant.
He’s just lost his mom.
He’s having to go straight into a new job, which is massive responsibility.
He’s been grieving, has a new job, is having to tour the country to meet people re his new job, and about his mom.
He’s constantly on camera while doing all the above, is on every news channel everywhere.
His stress levels atm must be off the scale, I’d have got way angrier at much more than a pen, and way quicker.

Exactly what I was saying (unless you're replying to EP not me)

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

No. As close as it is to 25%

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We have what amounts to a two-party political system in the UK (in as much as no-one other than the Conservatives or Labour are ever likely to head a national Government in our lifetimes).

If one side was polling 57%, with the other on 29% and 14% going to other parties/not voting, you'd be talking ridiculous landslide territory.

For reference, it was Labour 43-30 Tories in 1997, and Tories 43-32 Labour in 2019.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

We have what amounts to a two-party political system in the UK (in as much as no-one other than the Conservatives or Labour are ever likely to head a national Government in our lifetimes).

If one side was polling 57%, with the other on 29% and 14% going to other parties/not voting, you'd be talking ridiculous landslide territory.

For reference, it was Labour 43-30 Tories in 1997, and Tories 43-32 Labour in 2019.

I don't dispute that at all, as i said in my initial post i'm surprised republicans are polling with as high a figure as they are, and it appears to be on the rise.

It was raised as a talking point rather than a prediction. I think nearly 1 in 4 people (for Jonny) or nearly 1 in 3 people being pro Republic is surprisingly high, given my experiences anecdotally and what is currently being portrayed by the media at the moment.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

But they're never going to air the views of genuine republicans right now...

Plus - while there probably are a rump of people who think we'd be better off as a republic, they're not that militant about it. It's more "if I were in charge of everything, this is what I'd do" hypotheticals than an actual fully formed movement that does anything. I mean there are people who believe in Cornish independence but it won't happen.

 

[Jack Regan]

If we were ever going to sack them off then the death of the queen would have been the time to do it (I have no particular feelings either way).

I could well be wrong, but I'd be surprised if William has any particular interest in being king, it isn't particularly going to enrich his life any further and I'd imagine it's a massive chore if when you could just live your life (his family are never going to want for anything either way) Harry has already fucked it all off for that sort of reason.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1569965497839411201

 

[Derby Wolf]

Just had an email off PureGym that my gym will be closed 10am-2pm on Monday.

Its ususlly open 24/7 and totally unmanned after 10pm every night but will be closed in order to let staff pay their respects.

I can grasp cancelling classes and even PT sessions but get a grip FFS.

Is this a day of lost earnings for employed folk?

My lot (Sainsburys) are adding 8 hours onto everybody's holiday entitlement. Think they'll be in a small minority doing that.