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The R.I.P. Thread

My point is, it was the 'work' he did during the 70's and 80's that meant he had to work so hard for peace during the 90's. As much of a bastard that he is, Ian Paisley does not have blood on his hands, McGuinness did.

They all had blood on their hands, those who committed violence, those who directed violence and those who planted the seeds of violence.
 
My point is, it was the 'work' he did during the 70's and 80's that meant he had to work so hard for peace during the 90's. As much of a bastard that he is, Ian Paisley does not have blood on his hands, McGuinness did.

And McGuinness never apologised for the atrocities that he was so proud to support.
 
I don't blame him for trying to blow Norman Tebbit into a million pieces tbf.
 
A lot of the IRA's victims families are lamenting his death as the truth has now disappeared forever. Many of the Disappeared have still not been recovered, people who were murdered under McGuinness' orders and buried in locations only known to McGuinness.
 
To be honest the deaths of other effective IRA leaders of the start of the troubles which have occurred periodically since and without too much fanfare probably ensured that the disappeared were never found just as effectively.
 
I don't like bullies and I don't like liars.

As far as I am concerned McGuinness was both of those things, and there are many innocent people who died and suffered because of him.

His name doesn't deserve to be on this thread IMO, as I feel and hope he rests in torment and not in peace. Sorry if I've upset anyone but this is how I feel.
 
Chuck Berry and Martin McGuiness on the same thread? Someone has had too much cypro, and for change it isn't me.

A murderer and a rock star together.....never.

I was in the Tavern on the fateful day, nothing anyone can say can justify that cunt McGuinness to me!
 
To be honest the deaths of other effective IRA leaders of the start of the troubles which have occurred periodically since and without too much fanfare probably ensured that the disappeared were never found just as effectively.

True, but as Chief of Staff, those murders were executed under McGuinness's orders and I think that is the thing that riles most people.
 
One cannot ignore the work put in by McGuinness to help bring about the peace process, but his victims will never forget his actions during the troubles.

Frank he worked to further his own importance, and fuck all else, he turned the whole point of the IRA in the early days, into a Colombian narcotics gang, with him as Pablo Escobar!!
 
I don't like bullies and I don't like liars.

As far as I am concerned McGuinness was both of those things, and there are many innocent people who died and suffered because of him.

His name doesn't deserve to be on this thread IMO, as I feel and hope he rests in torment and not in peace. Sorry if I've upset anyone but this is how I feel.

Apparently he died peacefully in bed, unlike his victims who were blown to pieces, or taken to waste ground and executed.
 
I have mixed feelings about the death of martin mcguinness. None of us actually know what was in his heart, since the provos gave up 'the armed struggle'. What we do know is that on the surface at least, he was working to keep the peace intact. Having lived and worked there for a few years i can say there is no will (with the exception of a few extremists) in the north of ireland to go back to the mayhem that blighted the lives of so many. We cant change history, we
have to move on.
But, like a lot of others that were involved he was no hero.
 
Every much a victim as all those innocents murdered. The hatred towards the British establishment is merited given the history. Anger and hatred can manifest in many horrible, inexcusable ways. Tebbitt's comments are completely understandable though. This is not really a time to point-score.
 
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