The NFL Thread

[Tony Towner]

I think you're wrong, but it's opinions.

Edit: I'm guessing you believe Saquon was the player most valuable to his team, and that's a good shout. But answer this: take Allen, Saquon and Jackson out of their respective teams and how many wins do those teams get? The Bills win a maximum of 5 games without Josh Allen. I'd bet the Ravens and Eagles could both still win 9-10 games without Jackson and Saquon. The Eagles have the best overall roster in the NFL and the Ravens would still win 8+ games with someone handing the ball off to Derrick Henry 30 times a game.

Obviously wins are hypothetical and difficult to answer as the whole playing style would have to be different. They were 2-2 before going to the run heavy approach after the bye, only lost 1 since with a backup QB, so moving to him as the centerpiece of the offense did see a significant uplift.

In the previous 2 years Philly had RBs in Swift and Sanders who both went to the probowl with 1000 yard seasons, he doubled that. I know this is a bit simplistic but he's twice as good statistically as at the time league average running backs. If Josh Allen was replaced by a league average QB, a fit Tua for the sake of argument would he perform at half the level?

What I do agree with which is ultimately why a QB wins it every year is a QB can have a very good season in isolation, on his talent alone. A RB needs at the least a competent OL to do so and that the Eagles have a stronger roster all round than the Bills do and if he was playing tomorrow, Philly would win by 2 scores+

 

[Alan]

I still think that Buffalo wouldn’t have been nearly as bad without Allen as has been posited, at least not to some more significant degree than Baltimore without Jackson.

Coaching is Buffalo’s heel more than anything. Still, no issue with Allen winning, more that the argument seems less about him being good than it is about framing what was around him as “bad” or minimizing Jackson.

 

[Jack Regan]

James Cook got 19 touchdowns at running back so it was hardly a one man offence Buffalo were operating.

Obviously the tandem between him and Allen is very much in the same vein as Lamar and Henry and Barclay and Hurts due to mobility threat at QB.

 

[Tony Towner]

Deebo wants out and SF have said fine. High variance outcome for the team who signs him I'd say. Talent unquestioned as is the capacity to be a mardy dickhead

 

[Jack Regan]

Yeah he's the pick of who you'd let go for me. Injured a lot and when they needed him to step up in games last year he largely disappeared instead.

 

[Tony Towner]

So I've decided to not watch the game tonight and watch it 'as live' in the morning. Too much wasted time and a HT performance by someone I couldn't name 1 song by (I know this is a me issue).

The game for me will be won or lost on whether Spags or Hurts come out on top. Mahomes and Reid are too good to get bottled up, but the Eagles defense is too good to get blown away. I think they'll score 20something. Hurts needs to take what's on offer, spot the exotic blitzes and not run into sacks. If they stack the box they have the pass catching talent to take advantage, if they don't Saquon can do his thing.
Eagles 27-Chiefs 24 (as long as Elliott makes his kicks)

 

[Jack Regan]

I'll be watching and rooting for an Eagles win thanks to Trump being behind Kansas. Prior to that I was just hoping for an entertaining game as I'm not a fan of either team.

Rather like the last time the Chiefs lost a super bowl it was down to their offensive line not being good enough. If the Eagles can dominate that then I think they'll do enough to stop Mahomes being able to dictate things and then Barclay having one of his moments on the Eagles offense will be enough to win a close low scoring game.

Unfortunately something still tells me the Chiefs will scrape it probably with a walk off field goal from that douche Butker.


Chiefs win 20-17.

 

[Tony Towner]

Aaron Rodgers being Aaron Rodgers has sat on the Jets telling him he's gone until SB day

 

[ROVERT47]

Ain’t gonna watch it, far too late for me and full of shite, just hope the Philadelphia Eagles win.

 

[Alan]

I'm here for Saquon, Jalen, and Kendrick. Not necessarily in that order.

 

[The Bear]

Trump, TayTay and Mahomes.

Whats not to love?

 

[BillyDee]

I'm ready for it. Gonna watch all the players play, play, play.

 

[BillyDee]

Oh this is not a neutral venue...

 

[darlowolf64]

Fly Eagles Fly...








Urgh, I just threw up a little in my mouth

 

[Jack Regan]

Disrespect to Hurts, interview Mahomes for the Chiefs and Barclay for the Eagles.

Motivation for him to step up?

 

[BillyDee]

Wow, that was actually a decent rendition of the national anthem for once.

 

[Jack Regan]

Nah needs...

 

[Dennisons Wrong Foot]

First dodgy call!

 

[BillyDee]

Good call, it was almost face masking..!

 

[darlowolf64]

What, an offensive Pass Interference call in favour of the Chiefs... Never