The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2024/25

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Gaz 50/1 on Betfair. Looking at some of the other names on the list, I nearly threw up - Rooney Steve Cooper Scott Parker.
Apologies - That's enough now.

It's like when we sacked McCarthy...

Be careful what you wish for etc..

 

[Tredman]

Are we in a relegation fight with imminent games?

 

[White Wolf]

Doesn't seem like when we sacked McCarthy at all, unless you mean in the sense the manager lost grip on the tactics and had taken the team as far as he could.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Doesn't seem like when we sacked McCarthy at all, unless you mean in the sense the manager lost grip on the tactics and had taken the team as far as he could.

In terms of the potential replacement it is similar.

 

[Deano]

The only thing similar to the McCarthy sacking is the thinking of some people, If they appoint a shit manager next, the problem will be that they appointed a shit manager, not that Southgate should have stayed.

 

[Johnny75]

In terms of the potential replacement it is similar.

It really isn't.

 

[Wolftone]

The only thing similar to the McCarthy sacking is the thinking of some people, If they appoint a shit manager next, the problem will be that they appointed a shit manager, not that Southgate should have stayed.

Who do you want as his replacement?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

As part of the thought process that should be considered though shouldn't it?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The only thing similar to the McCarthy sacking is the thinking of some people, If they appoint a shit manager next, the problem will be that they appointed a shit manager, not that Southgate should have stayed.

Apply it to anything. If we sign Michael Keane to replace Max Kilman then that's a terrible move and we'll be worse off. Doesn't mean we were wrong to sell Kilman for a daft fee.

Similarly Solbakken clearly had to go, Saunders following him and being a thousand times worse is an unrelated incident.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It really isn't.

If we end up with a replacement not as good as Southgate, then of course it is.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

The only thing similar to the McCarthy sacking is the thinking of some people, If they appoint a shit manager next, the problem will be that they appointed a shit manager, not that Southgate should have stayed.

Like if you have an average car you want to get rid of, you consider the replacements and make sure that new one is better before getting rid.

I know GS walked, but from a pub pundit point of view there are plenty who'd have sacked him at half time of the Slovakia game. Plenty on here too.

If we end up with Lee Carsley or Lampard, wishing for Southgate to go will have been a ridiculous standpoint.

If we end up with Pep or Klopp, then great.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

If we end up with Lee Carsley or Lampard, wishing for Southgate to go will have been a ridiculous standpoint.

It's just the natural endpoint though isn't it, the tactics have started to get muddled, the selections even more so, eight years is bloody ages these days for anyone to stay in one job, the evidence is now stacked up that he can't quite get us over the line.

I've been way more sympathetic towards him than most - some of the arguments against him defy belief - but this is time. Plus he doesn't want to do it all again anyway.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Apply it to anything. If we sign Michael Keane to replace Max Kilman then that's a terrible move and we'll be worse off. Doesn't mean we were wrong to sell Kilman for a daft fee.

Similarly Solbakken clearly had to go, Saunders following him and being a thousand times worse is an unrelated incident.

The Kilman analogy doesn't work. Money is involved there.

And as for SS we'd have been better off keeping SS than sacking himand appointing Saunders.

Likewise we'd have been better off keeping MM than sacking him and appointing Connor, obviously.

Very odd logic to not consider those decisions as a whole?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We'd have gone down under Mick, we went down under Connor. Wouldn't have made any difference, would just have given us a different decision to make at the end of the season.

Solbakken had to go as most of the players didn't want to know under him any more.

 

[Deano]

Like if you have an average car you want to get rid of, you consider the replacements and make sure that new one is better before getting rid.

I know GS walked, but from a pub pundit point of view there are plenty who'd have sacked him at half time of the Slovakia game. Plenty on here too.

If we end up with Lee Carsley or Lampard, wishing for Southgate to go will have been a ridiculous standpoint.

If we end up with Pep or Klopp, then great.

You can't really make sure the new car is better, might look better on paper and then never be out of the garage. All you can do is look at the evidence and make a decision that you think is for the best - Tactically, I think there are plenty of managers at different levels of in between from Lampard -> Pep and Klopp.

 

[prawnking]

The Kilman analogy doesn't work. Money is involved there.

But your car analogy is fine

 

[Johnny75]

Who do you want as his replacement?

Oh goody, is this the twats game of 'name somebody to shoot it down'?

 

[Johnny75]

The Kilman analogy doesn't work. Money is involved there.

And as for SS we'd have been better off keeping SS than sacking himand appointing Saunders.

Likewise we'd have been better off keeping MM than sacking him and appointing Connor, obviously.

Very odd logic to not consider those decisions as a whole?

Luddite thinking at it's very worst.

As has been explained by a few posters now, just because somebody isn't good enough now doesn't mean the next person won't be.

The next decision on a manager really has nothing to do with Southgate being up to the job.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Luddite thinking at it's very worst.

I just have a different opinion to you. No need to be rude is there?

Are you like this in real life?

 

[Wolftone]

Oh goody, is this the twats game of 'name somebody to shoot it down'?

No, its a genuine question. Personally I'd prefer someone who is English, not thick, not smarmy, with a proven track record of managing in the premier league.
That rules a few out and probably only leaves Potter.