The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2023/24

[Johnny75]

John Coates. Stoke fans seem to hate him

Really????

No shit. That news seems to have escaped people I know who are Stoke fans...

Oh and Stoke's net spend over the last 3 years is -£17m.

 

[Kenny]

Apologies I missed your angry sarcasm.

 

[Hereford Wolf]

My mate is a long suffering Stoke fan. They have finished virtually mid table for the past 5 seasons. The club is a mess with no direction.

 

[Stan Hullis]

Maybe they overperformed for a number of years and now need to accept their mediocrity for the rest of time.

 

[Johnny75]

Maybe they overperformed for a number of years and now need to accept their mediocrity for the rest of time.

Certainly making me smile right now.

 

[jd1981]

Stoke are in the same category as Blues, Coventry, Cardiff etc had some top flight experience but did very little when their, have 1-2 cups but nothing else but flatly argue that they’re big clubs.

 

[Squeak]

Stoke are in the same category as Blues, Coventry, Cardiff etc had some top flight experience but did very little when their, have 1-2 cups but nothing else but flatly argue that they’re big clubs.

In fairness, they are big compared to clubs like Accrington Stanley, Aldershot, Maidstone, Kettering etc.

 

[jd1981]

They would argue that they’re on the same level as say ourselves, Forest, Leicester, Derby etc

 

[Tony Towner]

A tier below that for me, along with Blues, Bristol City and Boro

 

[sycophantia]

They would argue that they’re on the same level as say ourselves, Forest, Leicester, Derby etc

Depends how far back you go I suppose, I'd put them in the same level as those as a club, history and fan base wise. Obviously their recent history is all downhill, bit like us in the 80s.

 

[machin05]

Denise has never backed Stoke, she doesn't like them. It's her dad's thing.

More interested in The Kardashians, probably.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Living in Stafford I know a lot of Stoke fans. Loving seeing them struggle. They tell me they had massive FFP issues so had been treading water but brought in a load of new players for AN. They certainly aren’t paying them all from gate receipts!

 

[jd1981]

Depends how far back you go I suppose, I'd put them in the same level as those as a club, history and fan base wise. Obviously their recent history I'd all downhill, bit like us in the 80s.

Soon as you start putting cut off times on history anybody can manipulate it to suit their own argument.
I do find it amusing when people tell me we’ve been mainly crap for 40 years. They’re absolutely right but then ask them why they’re deleting previous 106 years?

 

[Tony Towner]

Soon as you start putting cut off times on history anybody can manipulate it to suit their own argument.
I do find it amusing when people tell me we’ve been mainly crap for 40 years. They’re absolutely right but then ask them why they’re deleting previous 106 years?

Then you should go by this, which would make them 19th. Although like Wolves as founding members they have a baked in advantage

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[Wilf Wolf]

What's the odds that she'll underwrite more 'investment'?

If he’s a billionaire in his own right it’s not really relevant. Just as if she wants to spaff her money on coke and fast men it’s her business!

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Then you should go by this, which would make them 19th. Although like Wolves as founding members they have a baked in advantage

Seasons in the Top Flight of English Football by Clubs 1888-89 to 2024-25 - My Football Facts

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Maybe a % of seasons in top flight/seasons.

We'd fall down the table in that instance though.

 

[jd1981]

Hmm second division came in 3 years later, take away those 3 years we’d still have had more time in the top tier than out of it

 

[Johnny75]

Living in Stafford I know a lot of Stoke fans. Loving seeing them struggle. They tell me they had massive FFP issues so had been treading water but brought in a load of new players for AN. They certainly aren’t paying them all from gate receipts!

No, it'll be from the Souttar and Collins money.

Not sure who these fans are but not one Stoke season ticket holder or fan I know ever raises FFP and never has done.

They might be wrong of course and their hatred of Coates is misplaced.

Living in Newcastle under Lyme and being in the Stoke City catchment area there's a lot of these clayheads around.

 

[Kenny]

No, it'll be from the Souttar and Collins money.

Not sure who these fans are but not one Stoke season ticket holder or fan I know ever raises FFP and never has done.

They might be wrong of course and their hatred of Coates is misplaced.

Was a lot of journo talk last season that they had FFP issues that sounded a bit like ours (part real, part fake). Had to limit spending for a while and a couple of big sales put them in a position to spend again in the Summer.

From what I can see the dislike of Coates Jr is simply down to who he picks as manager. No clue if he has massively over spent on a generational talent though

 

[Johnny75]

Was a lot of journo talk last season that they had FFP issues that sounded a bit like ours (part real, part fake). Had to limit spending for a while and a couple of big sales put them in a position to spend again in the Summer.

From what I can see the dislike of Coates Jr is simply down to who he picks as manager. No clue if he has massively over spent on a generational talent though

They were paying a lot in wages for overpriced crap and those players on the main have gone. Transfer fees aren't an issue as far as I can tell

The fans are as pissed off with the board as the manager and players.

The whole club is in an unhappy place