The Live Match Discussion Thread: 2019/2020

[Johnny75]

It's natural to compare the two as most people have the men's game to compare to.

It's a mistake but then the media have a responsibility here too and they're failing spectaculaly at it.

 

[jd1981]

I agree with that and different rivalry exist in the womens game ie Brazil v Italy the other night commentator said about the history between the two teams.
In fact they’ve got none, the history is in the men’s game.
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[BillyDee]

PL have confirmed that next season VAR will not be used to judge keepers moving off the line, that will be left to the onfield officials.
Not sure why it has been such an issue at the WWC, the new rule actually goes in the keepers favour surely? The only issue is that now movement off the line is actually being called?

 

[lemonjelly]

Agreed it's painful. I've got no problem with it being televised, but it should be kept to a separate section on the BBC website.

This is just a form of internet apartheid imo. It's a version of no blacks, no irish, etc. What do you need protecting from? Are you incapable of moving on to the sections that do interest you? remember its the closed season, so there's fuck all news there anyway.

You have to scroll through all sorts of non-stories and stuff of little/no interest on most news or sports sites.

I also think jd1981 is spot on, in that we shouldn't be comparing the 2 so closely. It is widely acknowledged that womens tennis is played in a different manner - there's less of the big serves, there's more likely to be more baseline rallies, and arguably it will be a more tactical game (indeed a colleague and I recently were talking and agreed we'd probably be more likely to watch womens tennis than mens).

 

[jlo]

We should also take a moment to consider the history of Women's football too. I agree it's not comparable to men's football, and actually just like Rugby and Cricket, it's not something I choose to watch unless it's a major competition. And therefore I don't compare the two. But I wouldn't want any children growing up to be put off any sport by comparing it to the Male equivalent.

However it was Danny Batth's partner who opened my eyes to how men repressed women's football almost 100 years ago when it was more popular than the men's game, thus that hardly helped the chances of growth in the game.

How many of you knew that on Boxing Day 1920, Goodison Park pulled in 53,000 fans to watch Dick Kerr's Ladies play St Helen's Ladies?

And that on 5 December 1921, the FA effectively banned women from playing saying "the game of football is quite unsuitable for females and ought not to be encouraged". A ban that lasted 50 years? (www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/47625739)

For me, men of those times have a lot to answer for. Who is to say without that ban, it might not have been women's football which was the bigger sport, or certainly much closer in terms of audience (and no doubt closer in quality as more women would be playing it)?

I've also been disappointed with Wolves not taking the women's team seriously and giving them zero infrastructure, although that now appears to be changing. Unless I've missed it, it could be good to have a thread set up on here purely for them. It might bring new posters on to here and diversify some of the other threads too..

 

[BGreenWolf]

Women's football is only ever going to improve with exposure, investment and public interest.

I couldn't think of a better way to smother the game than deny it even the merest fraction of the coverage that the men's game gets.

It's not like there's much going on in the men's game at the moment!

 

[Carrotdude]

PL have confirmed that next season VAR will not be used to judge keepers moving off the line, that will be left to the onfield officials.
Not sure why it has been such an issue at the WWC, the new rule actually goes in the keepers favour surely? The only issue is that now movement off the line is actually being called?

I think they should look at penalties for obvious encroachment by players or a keeper massively coming off the line, the one from yesterday was a joke of a decision but having someone in the refs ear to make sure those things are spotted would be a good thing imo. Wouldn’t take long for people to stop if it gets called consistently.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I think they should look at penalties for obvious encroachment by players or a keeper massively coming off the line, the one from yesterday was a joke of a decision but having someone in the refs ear to make sure those things are spotted would be a good thing imo. Wouldn’t take long for people to stop if it gets called consistently.

It was actually introduced 12 months ago, in the U17 Euros Ireland had a keeper sent off when he was given a yellow for coming off his line in saving one during a penalty shoot-out (he had received one during the match so off the poor lad went), was rigidly enforced at that tournament then was ignored in the World cup and to my knowledge all of last season, now again it is flavour of the month with officials.

 

[White Wolf]

I haven't watched any of the WWC this year but have no issue with it being on. It's extremely poor quality (particularly the goalkeeping - smaller goals needed?) but it's the pinnacle of the women's game and the pinnacle of most sports should be televised. Wouldn't use viewing figures as an indication of quality as it is on public television so some people have fuck all else to watch, if we had the Under-21 Championship on public tv also then I'd say that would win - fairly sure Soccer Aid gets higher viewing figures than the majority of WWC matches and that's better than any women's team I have seen too.

The relentless promotion by the BBC especially on their website does gripe though. It's irritating and I'd like them to just split it into a separate section, if they are so confident that people enjoy the Women's World Cup then people will seek that section out and the people who want to read about the news in the men's game can do so as normal and have no reason to complain. Dreading their coverage in 2021 when we host the Euros.

 

[leedswolf]

I haven't watched any of the WWC this year but have no issue with it being on. It's extremely poor quality (particularly the goalkeeping - smaller goals needed?)

Some excellent keeping in the England vs Japan game last night.

 

[Johnny75]

There were some very good saves along with both keepers not being able to make the centre circle with their kicking.

 

[leedswolf]

There were some very good saves along with both keepers not being able to make the centre circle with their kicking.

A bit like Peter Shilton then? Come on Johnny even that is churlish by your normal standards. Comparing apples with oranges and claiming pears as usual.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

A bit like Peter Shilton then? Come on Johnny even that is churlish by your normal standards. Comparing apples with oranges and claiming pears as usual.

Can look a lot closer to home for weak kicking from a keeper in the men's game.

 

[Johnny75]

Not really. When the keeper can't kick the ball at any sort of distance the opposition just move up the pitch and the game is then played in a third of the playing area.

It makes for a poor spectacle in the main.

The women's pitch should be smaller.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Can look a lot closer to home for weak kicking from a keeper in the men's game.

That's improved a lot over the season to be honest. It's a shit shot now.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

That's improved a lot over the season to be honest. It's a shit shot now.

Still not great on distance though.

 

[Johnny75]

A bit like Peter Shilton then? Come on Johnny even that is churlish by your normal standards. Comparing apples with oranges and claiming pears as usual.

There's me thinking keeping has more aspects than just shot stopping.

 

[leedswolf]

There's me thinking keeping has more aspects than just shot stopping.

Not at all. Nice victim card. The original comment was about the standard of keeping and the goal size, but you knew that all along.

 

[Johnny75]

Not at all. Nice victim card. The original comment was about the standard of keeping and the goal size, but you knew that all along.

What are you dribbling on about man?

You made a comment, I replied, nothing more than that.

Oh and cut the bile out it makes you look a dick and you're better than that

 

[leedswolf]

What are you dribbling on about man?

You made a comment, I replied, nothing more than that.

Oh and cut the bile out it makes you look a dick and you're better than that

Classic Johnny bullying. Enjoy your evening.