The January 2025 Transfer Thread

[The Dude]

Really?
Helan, Ricketts, Pennant, (the Wolves version), Corica if aboriginal counts, come to mind straight away. They'll be numerous others if I could be bothered to think about it

If aboriginal counts then so does Welsh.

 

[The Dude]

Elokobi wasn't quick, nor Nathan Blake either.

Both were strong though.

 

[Tony Towner]

If aboriginal counts then so does Welsh.

Fair, whilst conveniently ignoring the others

 

[The Bear]

If aboriginal counts then so does Welsh.

Aborigine technically just means an indigenous race of a certain country or land mass.

Native American Indians are technically aboriginal.

/pedant

 

[sycophantia]

Is it time to close this thread and open the Summer 2025 transfer thread?

 

[leedswolf]

Aborigine technically just means an indigenous race of a certain country or land mass.

Native American Indians are technically aboriginal.

/pedant

Indeed, it would be more accurate to describe as 'First Nations'.

 

[Alan]

And technically not Indians! It’s a whole technicality ruckus over here.

For me, I probably think that what rankles so much about the physicality stereotypes is less about what is said than it is about what isn’t said.

Let’s be honest, most footballers, whatever their race or ethnicity, are going to be quick and strong, else they wouldn’t be playing top flight football. Now, maybe part of why I’m so sensitive to it is the way it parallels the experience of Black QBs in the NFL, but where the problem really lies for me (with the caveat that I’m White as hell and do not have the lived experience of racial prejudice) is how it precludes the mental side of the game so thoroughly.

To pull a recent example of a highly successful Black footballer, there can be no doubt that Sadio Mané was lightning quick and very strong for his size. But I have rarely heard those compliments consistently recognize his tactical understanding of what Liverpool (and Saints beforehand) needed him to successful at. He understood extremely well the tactical task, how to improvise within it, and how to connect it with the tactical understanding and improvisation of his squadmates. Too often, at least from an armchair, those mental traits are discarded in favor of the physical ones, and that does him (and other Black players like him) a huge disservice, IMO.

 

[The Dude]

Aborigine technically just means an indigenous race of a certain country or land mass.

Native American Indians are technically aboriginal.

/pedant

In context when talking about the Australian Steve Corica, we all know what ethnicity was meant by it though.

 

[The Dude]

Anyway back on topic... Dave Edwards. Not quick or strong.

 

[Wolftone]

Anyway back on topic... Dave Edwards. Not quick or strong.

Dangerous though.

 

[The Bear]

Dangerous though.

Can black players be dangerous, or will Alan's head explode?

 

[The Dude]

Dangerous though.

And Welsh, so Aboriginal...in Wales.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I've literally just seen Tawanda Chirewa described as 'pacey' and 'quick' by Wolves fans on Reddit. He might be the slowest winger I've ever seen.

Anthony Forde

 

[leedswolf]

In context when talking about the Australian Steve Corica, we all know what ethnicity was meant by it though.

Indeed, Aboriginal Australian.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Anyway back on topic... Dave Edwards. Not quick or strong.

Doyle says hold my beer!

Clearly Doyle has other attributes to his game but strength, power and speed are not amongst them.

 

[leedswolf]

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[Del Woppio]

Dan Gardner: “I could play on the wing, inside or off the front man and was seen as an impact player as I had speed.

Bruh that's not OK

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

I love the way you have to go back 30 years for the first example that pops into your head.

Look, it's clearly not bullshit. It happens, there have been multiple studies confirming this. You not liking it, not understanding it, or not agreeing with it doesn't make it any less true. As I said, obviously there are many black players that you can describe as skillfull and intelligent - but it is a fact that physical attributes are talked about more often with black players than white players, often ahead of the other things that they bring to the table.

Saying Marco Guehi is quick and strong isn't racist. But race does contribute to the fact that Guehi will be described is quick and strong, whereas John Stones is classy and intelligent

John Stones is far from Quick or Strong