The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

[Deano]

I really hope Nunes can adapt to the CM role for obvious reasons and some players do take a year to adapt and he will have now had a full pre season with the team. I'm not confident it will happen at all though if I'm honest, there's so many flaws when he plays there, misplacing 10 yard passes and dribbling into trouble on the edge of your own box are a recipe for disaster in any league but in the Premier League it's suicide.

 

[Wolvensam]

Nunes has just struggled to adapt, same as Cunha. And it didn’t help that he had a moron coaching him for four months.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

In actual fact what we’ve done this window, minus Neves and probably Collins, is get rid of a lot of deadwood and wage capital. It is harsh to call Jimenez ‘deadwood’ but I don’t think he scored a goal this season.

I don’t see a lot wrong with that. We weren’t going anywhere without them, and apart from Neves we haven’t weakened the starting eleven.

Yeah you're right, it's just that the season starts 3 weeks on Friday, and all we've done so far is sign Doherty.

 

[YoungWolf]

Yeah you're right, it's just that the season starts 3 weeks on Friday, and all we've done so far is sign Doherty.

Yeah. You’d hope things would move quickly now but we’re not prepared to pay £15m for Retegui so who knows.

I had heard a few weeks ago that we wouldn’t be spending a penny until we brought in £100m in sales. If Giles and Raul deals go through we aren’t far off I suppose…

 

[Wolvensam]

Yeah you're right, it's just that the season starts 3 weeks on Friday, and all we've done so far is sign Doherty.

Granted. Still a lot of time to go though transfer window wise, even though bringing players in once the season has started isn’t the most ideal, it’s doable.

We are in a stronger position than this time last year though, mainly because we have a decent manager now.

We also can’t forget Gomes is a capable CM at this level. Him and Lemina looked absolutely fine last year and, dare I say it, the midfield was much more dynamic with those two.

 

[Wolvensam]

Yeah. You’d hope things would move quickly now but we’re not prepared to pay £15m for Retegui so who knows.

I had heard a few weeks ago that we wouldn’t be spending a penny until we brought in £100m in sales. If Giles and Raul deals go through we aren’t far off I suppose…

For me it’s just getting rid of players in those positions so we can sign their replacements. Coady and Collins free up the CB replacement, Moutinho and Neves the CM (probably Scott), Jimenez, Traore and Podence will hopefully give us two attackers.

The question is who the targets are for the attackers, I suppose.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

For me it’s just getting rid of players in those positions so we can sign their replacements. Coady and Collins free up the CB replacement, Moutinho and Neves the CM (probably Scott), Jimenez, Traore and Podence will hopefully give us two attackers.

The question is who the targets are for the attackers, I suppose.

Yep, agree with all of that.

Although it makes it all the stranger we signed Doherty and may well sign Cresswell.

We seem to want to really shave the wages and deadwood, which is fine. But signing Doherty on a 3 year and Cresswell (if we do) just shits on that.

 

[prawnking]

Oh it’s not a sure thing - but I think that team in that shape (with a proper striker) can be a well coached team under Julen with attacking potential.

There’s a lot on Nunes starting to take a grip on the midfield but it’s his position and while we got by playing him wide in the second half of the season it’s not what we spent nearly £40m on. Big season for him and his career, he seems confident that he will step up after a season acclimatising and it appears to be the plan for him to play through the middle.

Cunha alongside a good number 9 I think could be very very good I think.

Neto I have my concerns on too, but he’s not been out of his depth just not the sharpness we became used to before the injuries. It sounds like if we sign Scott that is where he will play anyway.

Sarabia, Cunha and Nunes all had disappointing maiden seasons for us (borderline disastrous for the latter), none have shown they are capable of any kind of regular goal/assist contributions for us so far, and when you also add in Neto 2023 and the unknown quantity of Sasa, and I just wonder where our attacking output is really coming from.

Maybe it'll all just come together...but there's too much we have to cross our fingers about for me to be that confident of that teamsheet at present.

 

[Wolvensam]

Can only think Doherty and Cresswell are for Premier League experience, maybe as leaders in the dressing room? My main concern this summer is losing quite a lot of big personalities - we must have one of the youngest squads in the Premier League now.

 

[prawnking]

Nunes has just struggled to adapt, same as Cunha. And it didn’t help that he had a moron coaching him for four months.

We have to let Lage go at some point...Nunes has had plenty of his career either side of those four months

 

[Lycan]

Wonder how many he'll finish!

Wasn't many times he completed 90 mins last season?

Different game with 5 subs. Lopetegui will often sub 3 or 4 forward players off, every game.

 

[Alan]

Can only think Doherty and Cresswell are for Premier League experience, maybe as leaders in the dressing room? My main concern this summer is losing quite a lot of big personalities - we must have one of the youngest squads in the Premier League now.

I think this exactly why we've brought in Doc and (tentatively) Cresswell.

Whether or not that's faulty thinking will tell in time.

 

[Deano]

Can only think Doherty and Cresswell are for Premier League experience, maybe as leaders in the dressing room? My main concern this summer is losing quite a lot of big personalities - we must have one of the youngest squads in the Premier League now.

Sa - 30
Bentley - 30
Jonny - 29
Semedo - 29
Doherty - 32
Dawson - 33
Lemina - 29
Sarabia - 31

With all those in the squad I don't think there's much chance we will one of the youngest squads, there's still plenty of experience in terms of age and games played.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We have to let Lage go at some point...Nunes has had plenty of his career either side of those four months

I wouldn't blame Lage for the shitshow that Matheus served up at Brighton, but his time has had very definite knock-on effects on what we're doing (or not doing) now. The prick.

 

[Alan]

I wouldn't blame Lage for the shitshow that Matheus served up at Brighton, but his time has had very definite knock-on effects on what we're doing (or not doing) now. The prick.

To add on to this, it's much harder to both undo old lessons and teach new ones midseason, particularly in the middle of a relegation battle.

 

[Johnny75]

Last thing we need is Raúl sitting here on £100K+ p/w not playing because nobody came in for him and he's stuck down the pecking order behind the new £18M Argentinian.

Kalajdzic/Cunha/Silva/Raúl

4 into 2 spots. One drops out we replace him.

That's not how it works though.

If you have your targets you go and get them. Selling players shouldn't dictate that.

 

[Walnut]

Sarabia, Cunha and Nunes all had disappointing maiden seasons for us (borderline disastrous for the latter), none have shown they are capable of any kind of regular goal/assist contributions for us so far, and when you also add in Neto 2023 and the unknown quantity of Sasa, and I just wonder where our attacking output is really coming from.

Maybe it'll all just come together...but there's too much we have to cross our fingers about for me to be that confident of that teamsheet at present.

I agree with all that. I have gut feeling we will struggle and just hope we don't get relegated, and I'm usually a optimist.

 

[Johnny75]

Agree, our first 11 would be fine even without any incomings.
The only real concern for me is the front line/striker. Nothing solid there yet, with outgoings and suspected outgoings we only have Sarabia, Neto, Cunha, Fabio, Hwang and Sasa. On the face of it that's looks OK but we've no idea if Sasa will be fit enough and who knows what's going on with Fabio. Hwang is a squad player at best.

You mean the first XI that doesn't have a striker and doesn't score goals?

 

[Lycan]

That's not how it works though.

If you have your targets you go and get them. Selling players shouldn't dictate that.

Not every club just goes out and buys who they want. We're currently having to sell before we buy.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Not every club just goes out and buys who they want. We're currently having to sell before we buy.

Well we've sold around 90million of players (Inc.Raul) and shed around 400k a week on wages, and we've brought in Doherty for 0.