The Film Thread

[nimrod]

Martin, though more a black comedy I guess

http://youtu.be/Ni3fPBM3GQA

 

[machin05]

have you seen the conjuring?

Nope, I'll add it to the list. Cheers bud.

 

[machin05]

I struggle to watch horror films nowadays. I just can't seem to suspend my disbelief anymore and end up laughing or being bored witless rather than being scared.

It Follows was the last one I tried but switched it off after 20 mins. I know it's well liked though. On Netflix too.

I watched It Follows the other day and did the same.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The problem is most of the great horror scripts have been done. I would rather sit down in front of Day of the Dead, Halloween, the Fog, the Omen or Texas Chainsaw Massacre than the modern stuff.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

The Strangers is the one of the best I've seen in recent years.

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[machin05]

The problem is most of the great horror scripts have been done. I would rather sit down in front of Day of the Dead, Halloween, the Fog, the Omen or Texas Chainsaw Massacre than the modern stuff.

That's such bollocks. It's like saying all the best songs have already been written. Good film makers/script writers/story tellers/directors can create original stories and ways of telling them. Martyrs and Anti-Christ, for example, were like nothing I'd ever seen before but both brilliant. Then you have whole new genres such as POV, amateur/found footage, survival horror etc.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Amateur - Blair Witch did that in 1999. And it was shit.

Plus - has anyone done a better zombie flick that Romero did? Maybe Sam Raimi with The Evil Dead

Better Slasher than Carpenter did with Halloween? Nope - Friday the 13th is the closest and that is almost the same vintage. Krueger is nowhere near.

Better coming of the antichrist than The Omen? Not that I can think of.

They are classics of the genre for a reason.

 

[leedswolf]

I would probably lob in Hitchcock's Psycho into the classic mix.

 

[machin05]

Yeah, Blair Witch was shit, but are you considering 1999 to be classic? Anyway, Cloverfield, Paranormal Activity, REC, VHS are all modern, better versions of that genre.

I'd put Scream up there in the best slasher category - clever twist at the end too.

But that's kinda my point. New film styles and subgenres are pushing horror forward. SFX are ever improving. Realism is at an almost chilling level. Yes, classics are classics, but that's not at the preclusion of anything new. As I mentioned films like Martrys, Antichrist, Irreversible, Dogtooth (the last 2 are perhaps more thrillers than horrors) are redefining the genre for me and becoming their own classics.

BTW, The film Antichrist has nothing to do with the devil incarnate, incase that was why you mentioned The Omen.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

No - I mentioned the Omen as it was on my original list of films I would rather watch, that's all.

Scream is pretty damn good, but I think Halloween is better. For me it is an archetypal horror film. I really love it.

 

[machin05]

Oh and 28 Days Later is up there in the zombie sub-genre.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Nowhere near the Romero stuff. Nowhere near.

 

[machin05]

Well, yeah, that's just opinion isn't it. All I was challenging was your "all the best horror movies have already been made" sentiment.

 

[Dublin Drummer Wolf]

Oh and 28 Days Later is up there in the zombie sub-genre.

Definitely.

Although the remake of Dawn of the Dead was good

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But that's the point. Why remake Dawn of the Dead? The original was perfect as it was.

 

[nimrod]

i think older films generally did psychological horror better probably because they didn't have the special effects.

i'm sure the japanese must have loads of great horror films i won't have seen. films like the ring.

 

[nimrod]

But that's the point. Why remake Dawn of the Dead? The original was perfect as it was.

a lack of ideas, decent writers or the appetite to take any sort of risk?

 

[Dublin Drummer Wolf]

But that's the point. Why remake Dawn of the Dead? The original was perfect as it was.

The original looks dated now, and the remake had a great soundtrack. Sometimes movies need to be refreshed to expose them to newer audiences and also to highlight certain aspects that were missed in the first one.

 

[nimrod]

oh and i quite enjoyed the prequel to the Thing which wasn't made that long ago was it?

of course the 1982 'original' was a remake of sorts

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The original looks dated now, and the remake had a great soundtrack. Sometimes movies need to be refreshed to expose them to newer audiences and also to highlight certain aspects that were missed in the first one.

They absolutely don't. It is lazy film-making.

The original doesn't look dated at all.