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Plenty of action in the midfield, good battle at the front for 75% of the race. The vast superiority of the Red Bull makes it dull.

The DRS zone was perfect here, it got people close without making it stupidly easy like in Istanbul and Montreal. You had to time it perfectly on the brakes, rather than just drive straight past.
 
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Yawnfest. The midfield battles were mainly down to reliability with no retirements whatsoever.

Singapore can get to feck too. I don't care that it's at night, it's still dull.
 
That's a good thing surely?

Two weekends ago, Vettel would have won by a country mile without the interception of the safety car.

Give me that, rather than a race full of artificial overtaking like we saw in Istanbul.
 
While I agree about the ease of overtaking at Istanbul and wouldn't like to see that again, today was just a boring race for me. Midfield battles have been present in pretty much every race this season and even with 2 DRS zones it didn't really add much. Cars may have got somewhat closer but I don't think it presented an opportunity to overtake, just lots of drivers having looks but none really going for it. Then you had the likes of Sutil who were hitting the rev limiter well before the end of the DRS zone and couldn't even get close to the car in front. As for the battle at the front, I didn't really find it that exciting. Vettel was never really challenged and apart from Alonso overtaking Webber not much else happened. By all means it was some great consistent individual racing from the front 3 but beyond that it was just follow the leader. Good drive from Alguersuari though.
 
Though it was a reallu dull race today. The others really need to catch up on Red Bull as it just turning into a boring procession
 
As tedious as it gets when one team starts dominating F1, or any sport for that matter, i think its quite nice to see that its an independant team in control for once rather than one of the works teams, usually the big money from Ferrari, McLaren or Renault has thrust their car to the top of the leaderboard but now we've got a bloke who sells a soft drink leading the way.

In fact, how the hell has that bloke made so much money? His company essentially has a product range of 1 item, he branched out to Diet Red Bull i guess and he tried Red Bull Cola (which was shite), but he's managed to get enough money to brand 2 F1 teams, at least 2 football teams i can think of, along with the air race thing and other stuff he endorses.
 
Red Bull are absolutely minted, they're no normal privateer team. I like them as a team, but I don't want to see a return to the Schumi/Ferrari era. We've been spoilt recently, but what we saw today is still a massive improvement on 2000-2004.
 
I too like RBR, i took to them instantly on their arrival in F1 because i liked their livery, Renault usually have some tasty paintwork as well.

It does amaze me that the bloke who started Red Bull has made so much money from one product though, especially considering its nowhere near as widespread as something Coca-cola or Pepsi.
 
Red Bull, and Vettel in particular, do seem streets ahead of their rivals. Which, in my opinion, is not good for the sport.
 
Red Bull, and Vettel in particular, do seem streets ahead of their rivals. Which, in my opinion, is not good for the sport.

Every sport has a stand out and its down to the other teams to play catch or they can sulk and let Vettel stroll to the title.
 
[Big Brother voiceover bloke]Lap 52 of the monaco Grand Prix, and Sebastian Vettel is leading again[/Big Brother voiceover bloke]
 
That's why hopes that Red Bull would be slowed by a new ruling ahead of Valencia restricting changes to engine maps between qualifying and race were always likely to be misguided.

And it emerged over the weekend that a second ruling to come into force at the next race, the British Grand Prix, may well also not have the effect Red Bull's rivals initially hoped.

That is the banning of off-throttle blowing of diffusers - a practice whereby teams blow exhaust gases over the back of the car's floor even when the driver is not pressing the accelerator, significantly increasing downforce and therefore grip.

Initially, the belief among some of Red Bull's rivals was that because the world champions had been the first in exploiting this technology, they must be more advanced with it, and therefore would be hardest hit by any ban.

But Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said over the course of the weekend in Spain that they had tried 'hot blowing' and abandoned it because it was burning the bodywork - so had stuck with the less influential 'cold-blowing', where the throttles are kept open but fuel is not burnt. This produces significantly less energy and so is less effective than hot blowing.

That means that far from the Silverstone ruling hurting Red Bull, it could actually help them - as their closest rivals, Ferrari and McLaren, are both using hot-blowing.


Even as a Ferrari fan, that would be hilarious.
 
Awesome, it just shows how incredible that Red Bull car is, their rivals are having to use controversial techniques to try and catch them, techniques which are now being outlawed.
 
At the moment, it is nigh on impossible for Red Bull not to win. They are so superior to their competitors.
 
It seems as if Ferrari are getting slowly closer, but Mclaren look as if they are going backwards doesn't it :(
 
McLaren have been literally blown away, but things will change, not this year, but maybe next.

It certainly seems that way, however having listened to Button and Hamilton talk about their chances for the rest of the season I wonder if they are being too candid? It almost smells a little of a double bluff? Could they could have big updates for Silverstone and just trying to throw the others off the scent?
 
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