The Euro 2024 Thread

[fansagainstvar]

I switched off after the handball. It ain't football any more. At least your club had some balls.

 

[jd1981]

Officials are getting some shit this morning but I’ve got sympathy as they’re only applying the rules.
The handball was harsh but will always be given in any UEFA competition and premier league.
I’m looking forward to PL managers moaning about VAR next season when everyone can say “your club voted to keep it”
Denmark manager had a still image of the offside saying it’s not accurate.
Trust me if it was the other way you’d want it disallowed.

 

[Tony Towner]

Hmmm, seems a big coincidence that the most controversial moments seem to happen when the English officials are in the middle. I'm watching it abroad so don't have the benefit/hindrance of English commentary, but if Atwell doesn't pull the handball back, I doubt it's barely discussed.

 

[jd1981]

Hmmm, seems a big coincidence that the most controversial moments seem to happen when the English officials are in the middle. I'm watching it abroad so don't have the benefit/hindrance of English commentary, but if Atwell doesn't pull the handball back, I doubt it's barely discussed.

I still think it’s called back regardless of the nationality of the official.

 

[Dire Wolf]

More generally on VAR and officiating, and this is especially applicable to the PL, instead of actively looking for reasons to disallow a goal, which is definitely how it is used in the PL, they should be looking at whether there is anything significant enough to not allow the goal to stand (or award a penalty like last night).

It seems like a minor semantic change, but would potentially make a big difference.

 

[Johnny75]

More generally on VAR and officiating, and this is especially applicable to the PL, instead of actively looking for reasons to disallow a goal, which is definitely how it is used in the PL, they should be looking at whether there is anything significant enough to not allow the goal to stand (or award a penalty like last night).

It seems like a minor semantic change, but would potentially make a big difference.

It should be a question the ref asks as they do in other sports:

Ref: I have a goal, is there any reason I cannot award this?
VAR: There might be a foul, go and look at the monitor.

Ref can then make a decision. We may not like the decision but at least it would happen.

 

[The Bear]

Denmark manager had a still image of the offside saying it’s not accurate.
Trust me if it was the other way you’d want it disallowed.

I wouldn't. It was so tight there's no way you can be 100% certain that is is THAT accurate.

And even if it was that accurate I still wouldn't like it as it's so close that it is essentially level, or should be in any common sense interpretation of the law and what it was intended for.

Unfortunately technology has overtaken the current laws and the way they were written and what they were intended for. If it's impossible to see with the naked eye on a still image then I don't like it being given offside. But that's just me personally. Plenty seem to like it.

 

[jd1981]

I wouldn't. It was so tight there's no way you can be 100% certain that is is THAT accurate.

And even if it was that accurate I still wouldn't like it as it's so close that it is essentially level, or should be in any common sense interpretation of the law and what it was intended for.

Unfortunately technology has overtaken the current laws and the way they were written and what they were intended for. If it's impossible to see with the naked eye on a still image then I don't like it being given offside. But that's just me personally. Plenty seem to like it.

You absolutely would if it had been used in that way against someone else but not for you.

 

[The Bear]

You absolutely would if it had been used in that way against someone else but not for you.

Consistency of use is a completely different argument to whether I agree with the process.

 

[jd1981]

Consistency of use is a completely different argument to whether I agree with the process.

I think we’re debating two different points here my argument is about consistency yours is more the process.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Totally forgot I had this shirt!

 

[Lupo]

But does it still fit?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

But does it still fit?

Ha, it's not the original, I was only 8

 

[Jack Regan]

So unsurprisingly Gareth makes only one change, expecting more turgid rubbish until he decides to change it.

 

[Dire Wolf]

I would not be surprised if England won this by 3 goals. I equally would not be surprised if it was a turgid 0-0.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Guéhi banned for the QF if we go through

 

[Wolftone]

They pressing us quite high. Could benefit us if we move the ball quickly

 

[Kenny]

Well this ref likes his cards!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Well this ref likes his cards!

First one was fair (Guéhi sold down the river by lazy play by Trippier). The Mainoo one is not a yellow, he's got to go for that ball and he doesn't go in with any force.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Gabor Trippier