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Summer 2022 Transfer Window

Jinky said:
Apologies for posting Wolves transfer news/rumours on a Wolves forum in a thread specifically designated for transfer rumours xx
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Don't get haughty and ruin the funniest thing I've posted all year xx
 
If we buy two strikers ( or buy one and loan another ) , that will mark a significant change if we then play two up front , 2 lads who are used to scoring , used to scoring in one on one situations .
This ' front 3 ' style might work fine if two of those three are strikers . However , look at our players who are being asked to fit into a front 3.....Adama , Neto , Podence , Hwang , Guedes...even Gibbs White when we had him . All those lads like moving forward , but none of them could ever be described as composed in front of goal .
Playing two strikers allows them to hang off the centre back and not be continually expected to link up play....on the half way line.... .

We need goals and that means that something has to change . Bringing in new strikers and making little change to the formation will change nothing .
 
Nobody has any confidence we can score in the premier league whatever we do. This is down to lage
 
Jabbawolf said:
Was thinking this the other day - is it a mindset of Portuguese football?
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Lage’s Benfica side could score goals. Our problem is we don’t have a top class goal scorer.

i think Harry Kane is a pretty average footballer, but a great goal scorer. Bruno Fernandes is no world beater, but Manchester United were significantly more successful when he was scoring regularly. Jamie Vardy was one of the main reasons Leicester won the title.

We don’t have anyone we can rely on to score goals on a regular basis.
 
The Saturday Boy said:
We didn't score many with Nuno in the Premier League either.
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I can’t argue with that - but I can say for sure that under Nuno the big 6 took us very seriously and we’re delighted 😀 f they beat us. Under Bruno they only have to turn up and score.

When Bruno was appointed I remember all the talk of Lageball and how it was going to be great to watch. It isn’t. It’s the same as under Nuno with no chance of winning a game.

I’d be flabbergasted if Fosun start investing in the team and leave it to Lage to manage.
 
Johnny75 said:
Four, four fucking two.
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Yes I know that what comes into peoples heads when I said that . That's not what I said though .

It can still be a version of a front 3 , but containing two lads who are well used to scoring and are not half afraid to have a go .

How many goals per season does Adama score ? Podence ? even Neto ? They're not goalscorers plain and simple and are unlikely ever to be .

Our first goal last night was really refreshing - a full back driving forward , lovely ball into the box , with a striker arriving at just the right time - because he is well used to doing that .

So no , I'm not advocating Mike Bassett , just lads up front with a greater instinct for scoring .
 
Jabbawolf said:
Was thinking this the other day - is it a mindset of Portuguese football?
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Might be the strength of Portuguese football apart from Jaoa, all the others essentially came from and were developed at one of the big 3 clubs (I know likes of Nelson was at Barca for a year) who are far stronger then the other teams, where they knew all they needed to do was knock it about back and forth and eventually gaps would appear in the defence.
 
The Saturday Boy said:
Lage’s Benfica side could score goals. Our problem is we don’t have a top class goal scorer.

i think Harry Kane is a pretty average footballer, but a great goal scorer. Bruno Fernandes is no world beater, but Manchester United were significantly more successful when he was scoring regularly. Jamie Vardy was one of the main reasons Leicester won the title.

We don’t have anyone we can rely on to score goals on a regular basis.
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You've got to play in a way that suits the man up top too.

Leicester's game plan was little different to what Nuno established at Wolves, men behind the ball and then Drinkwater putting it in behind as often as possible for Vardy to chase. No way Vardy scored anything like as many goals in a team with slow patient build up, although he got better and made his movement more nuanced in following years as Leicester became more expansive his bread and butter was always using his pace into big open spaces.

Fernandes when he first went to United was given free rein to do pretty much whatever he wanted in an uninspiring team. He pops up all over the place in attack and he's far from shy about having a pop, fortune favours the brave and all that. He's been largely neutered as they've incorporated other players coming in that have meant he's either had to try and play deeper where he becomes a liability or hasn't been able to play like such a luxury as other people take that role, looking at you Mr Ronaldo.

Kane I think has adapted into a more rounded footballer than he was begin with, though some times he takes it too far and goes a bit Afobe. When he first started hitting big numbers I think he largely played the percentages, just got himself in the box as often as he could, shot as often/early as he could. At that point I don't think he was often scoring impressive goals but he was just finding himself so many chances through pure graft of getting himself in the box every time he could.
 
Tony Towner said:
Theoretically Guedes is that player - second finisher
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All of the front 3 should be able to score goals given the chance. Neto is an excellent finisher as is Raul.

Don't know if Guedes is or not but 13 La Liga goals isn't to be sniffed at.

Our problem is tempo and lack of movement. That's a coaching issue not a player issue.

If we sack Lage I'd like us not to go down the Lopetegui route as he's more of the same conservative football.

Go a different way and try Rose who would really fit these players in his 4-3-3.

If it were possible I'd go for Potter or better still outlandishly Poch. Neither of those are going to happen though.
 
Johnny75 said:
All of the front 3 should be able to score goals given the chance. Neto is an excellent finisher as is Raul.

Don't know if Guedes is or not but 13 La Liga goals isn't to be sniffed at.

Our problem is tempo and lack of movement. That's a coaching issue not a player issue.

If we sack Lage I'd like us not to go down the Lopetegui route as he's more of the same conservative football.

Go a different way and try Rose who would really fit these players in his 4-3-3.

If it were possible I'd go for Potter or better still outlandishly Poch. Neither of those are going to happen though.
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I agree with both Mark & yourself, Johnny.

What I struggle to get my head around is the average football fan (and I include myself in this) can see it's obvious that we slow down attacks too much - but it doesn't appear to be obvious to the coaches. If it is, why are we still doing it? We don't have a cutting edge going forward and haven't for years now. We never go for the juggular and instead, seem hellbent on ball retention and keeping hold of possession rather than getting in behind a defence or going for the kill. How many times have we seen us get the ball in a promising position, but to then stop, turn, pass backwards or across the midfield line (hello horseshoe of doom), allowing the opposition to get back in to formation? This is a coaching issue, I agree. We're incredibly easy to defend against.

On a separate note, I lost count of the amount of times I saw Guedes running in behind against Spurs, but we rarely looked for him. He'll end up getting frustrated and will just stop making those runs. You can't tell me that we don't have the players to find those runs. I guess the hope is that eventually Guedes/Neves/Moutinho will have a change of mindset and will start picking them out - but they also need to be told to do this by the man in charge. Then we need the jigsaw to come together by the player making that run to actually finish the move with a goal.

Having Raul back will help us score more goals by virtue of him being a centre forward and his first thought is generally to get in a shooting position (like last night). I was also hoping we'd have another forward in by the weekend but that's looking unlikely.
 
If Lage is sacked and wanted to stay in England I think the best he could hope for given his record since the honeymoon period at Benfica aided by Felix would be lower Champioship at very best. I’d love to hear his answer if questioned at interview why his record when conceding first is so dreadful.
 
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