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Summer 2022 Transfer Window

Paddingtonwolf said:
Doesn’t really matter. Five year deal means we can charge the absolute earth, moon and stars.
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Absolutely.

I was more relating to why Neto might want to move, rather than our stance as a club, which as you say, with 5 years left on the deal it will take a ridiculous premium as long as there’s no release clause
 
Can a Mendes client refuse to move I wonder ?

Surely Jorge hasn't that much power ? Being in that kind of business has to mean that you have to take the failures with the successes .
 
If Arsenal stump up the asking price for Neto they will get him, but the asking price should be high as he's just signed a 5 year deal and we'd need to replace him that's all there is to it pretty much and it's not really anything different to any player under any agent.

Fans of other teams seem to think that as we get players in that are Mendes clients they're going to get our players that are signed with him for cheap but in the 6 years of his involvement with Wolves we've never had one of our players punted on for cheap so until there is an example it gets chalked up as nonsense.
 
Carrotdude said:
They don’t have to but Neto isn’t exactly going to be upset about going to a better club for more money is he?
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True - but it'll have to be a good deal for Wolves .

We need a replacement though . That'll mean two more signings .
 
Deano said:
If Arsenal stump up the asking price for Neto they will get him, but the asking price should be high as he's just signed a 5 year deal and we'd need to replace him that's all there is to it pretty much and it's not really anything different to any player under any agent.

Fans of other teams seem to think that as we get players in that are Mendes clients they're going to get our players that are signed with him for cheap but in the 6 years of his involvement with Wolves we've never had one of our players punted on for cheap so until there is an example it gets chalked up as nonsense.
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Some people will say Doherty went for 'cheap', I disagree but I get the argument. Mendes represented the player, both managers and potentially both clubs in that deal.
 
Sky Sports breaking news says Chelsea are about to offer £60m for Anthony Gordon.

There’s your marker.

Absolutely no way Neto goes in this window.
 
Jinky said:
Sky Sports breaking news says Chelsea are about to offer £60m for Anthony Gordon.

There’s your marker.

Absolutely no way Neto goes in this window.
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I don't think he will either, if he plays his way into form and arsenal are still interested I think there would be more noise in January and then something a bit more concrete next summer.
 
The price we ask will be set at a point where we think it is the best we are likely to get for a player. Kota was no longer a guaranteed starter so could well have gone down in value much like Traore did. Traore two summers ago was on the back of an excellent season and we probably thought he might continue to increase in value and we got that spectacularly wrong. Who knows if there was any interest in him and the shoulder injury may have influenced that. MGW was never going up in value if he wasn’t prepared to sign a new deal.

Neto’s contracted for 5 years so there’s plenty of time for him to regain pre-injury form but at the moment he’s a long way off. There’s no reason he can’t recover his best form but Costa never did and that must be in the club’s thinking. I’d be very sad if he went whatever the price but I think an offer of £45m would be accepted. I’d be disappointed if we spent anything close to that and didn’t get a player in that is better than Neto has been post injury.
 
I think a lot of his benchings were towards the end of the season weren’t they? That might be why? Also did he start that season on our bench before joining Liverpool or did I make that up?
 
Johnny75 said:
Where has this myth of Jota having lost his place come from?

He played 34 PL games with 27 starts and 7 sub, 4 injured in his last season with us.
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Was it not the case that at the end of the season when he was fit Neto was starting ahead of him?
 
Carrotdude said:
I think a lot of his benchings were towards the end of the season weren’t they? That might be why? Also did he start that season on our bench before joining Liverpool or did I make that up?
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Think this is right, it seemed he missed a few games due to being a bit off form and maybe tactical changes by Nuno.
 
Wilf Wolf said:
Was it not the case that at the end of the season when he was fit Neto was starting ahead of him?
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It was a long season and Jota started 7 out of the last 10 games with 3 on the bench.

He did start the game against Sheffield United on the bench but I wouldn't but we can't read much into that given he went to Liverpool 6 days later.
 
Need to dig out the threads from around the time when he left, but my memory of it all is that:

a) we'd switched from 3-5-2 to 3-4-3, he wasn't as effective as a wide forward, but it was a necessary tactical switch for the good of the overall squad that he was the unfortunate loser from (with Traore the opposite, a big beneficiary)
b) after a strong start his general form had plateaued (particularly in the second half of his final season here), there was a sense that his ceiling wasn't as high as we'd initially thought, so even if £45m would turn out low it shouldn't be by that much in the long term
c) it wasn't just £45m, we were also getting a youth prospect with a decent rep thrown in with Hoever

Of course all three of those turned out to be mistaken impressions (and how), but I don't remember a huge amount of gnashing and wailing about him being stolen before his time when he left. More that, as much as it would've been nice to keep him, we'd have to accept growing pains like it as part of the process of the team maturing into the PL.
 
proslo said:
Need to dig out the threads from around the time when he left, but my memory of it all is that:

a) we'd switched from 3-5-2 to 3-4-3, he wasn't as effective as a wide forward, but it was a necessary tactical switch for the good of the overall squad that he was the unfortunate loser from (with Traore the opposite, a big beneficiary)
b) after a strong start his general form had plateaued (particularly in the second half of his final season here), there was a sense that his ceiling wasn't as high as we'd initially thought, so even if £45m would turn out low it shouldn't be by that much in the long term
c) it wasn't just £45m, we were also getting a youth prospect with a decent rep thrown in with Hoever

Of course all three of those turned out to be mistaken impressions (and how), but I don't remember a huge amount of gnashing and wailing about him being stolen before his time when he left. More that, as much as it would've been nice to keep him, we'd have to accept growing pains like it as part of the process of the team maturing into the PL.
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Think this a fair reflection from my memory, it's interesting that some Wolves fans (not on here) are already saying similar stuff about Neto i.e. needs to be dropped, not been very good since his comeback, if its 50m, take the money etc, blah, blah
 
Can't also forget that we've generally been pretty bad at reinvesting that money. If we'd managed to find another 2-3 Neto-level replacements then it wouldn't feel anything like as sore as it was to replace Jota with players like Hoever, or even Podence.
 
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