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Societal collapse?

Tony Towner said:
You have to fix the processing system...well actually have one and reassess the criteria. That said it's a small percentage of our overall immigration, just a visible one.
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Yeah legal immigration is more of a problem but you won't ever persuade the fuckwits of this. Years of neglect in training our youngsters in necessary skills means we have to import labour.
 
The only way you have a chance to stop the boats is reach an agreement with the EU that those in them can be returned. The only way the EU might agree to that is if we processed asylum claims in France but that would require the UK to agree to some kind of annual quota and that would be political dynamite.

I think most people accept we should take a share of asylum seekers and it makes sense to accept those that have a support network of family already here, especially for Afghans who helped us as interpreters and should already be here but for the chaotic exit. If a suitable system was agreed and anyone who tried to enter the UK illegally was automatically barred from accessing the legal route it would act as a very strong deterrent. Anyone granted asylum could then enter through normal routes and would just be a small part of the overall immigration numbers.

I’m sure there’s a flaw in this but I can’t think of a better option.
 
Improving living standards will help.
Improving public services will help.
Politicians stop talking shit about foreigners, immigrants and asylum seekers will help.

Too late now though.
 
Just watching dozens of thugs have got into that holiday inn. People are going to die today
 
The fires of this have been stoked by politicians and media over a number of years and this is the entirely predictable outcome. In fact, I said it was a likely outcome in the general election thread, I didn't expect it to happen so quickly though. The unpleasant rhetoric that has been spouted by Farage, Johnson, Patel etc, and gleefully promoted by the predominantly right wing media is massively complicit, to the point that I think Farage should be charged with inciting racial hatred, the vicious, nasty piece of shit.
 
There’s a whole debate around multiculturalism and whether it’s been a success or not. Farage and Johnson etc have put their size 9’s right into exploiting the areas where it clearly has some difficulties.

Thing is with SM and camera phones there is enough supporting evidence to suit any narrative which is fuelling the polarisation to levels I’m not sure we’ve ever seen before.

Lot’s on SM now showing retaliatory attacks fuelling the fire further. Not sure how the escalation stops tbh.
 
The rioting on the streets stops, the polarisation doesn’t.

I just kicks the can down the road to the next warm evening when there’s nothing better to do.
 
EpsomWolf said:
Lot’s on SM now showing retaliatory attacks fuelling the fire further. Not sure how the escalation stops tbh.
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Yesterday the response to anyone posting video or pics of the rioting was "are you going to comment on the 2 people stabbed by the Muslims in Stoke"

So far the police have denied anyone was stabbed and no hospital reported stab wounds but still a fact out there for the fuckers to feed off to justify the actions.
 
Where is this cut off with "multiculturalism" though, I'm 43 and grew up alongside loads of kids/families from Asian and Caribbean backgrounds.

It isn't new. Nor are riots sadly, as I said the other day there are high profile ones from 1981 in Brixton/Toxteth, 2001 in Greater Manchester, 2011 in North London that aren't really any different.

We've always had dickheads who want an excuse to act the cunt (and pose at being hard while chucking shit at someone from miles away).
 
Kenny said:
Yesterday the response to anyone posting video or pics of the rioting was "are you going to comment on the 2 people stabbed by the Muslims in Stoke"

So far the police have denied anyone was stabbed and no hospital reported stab wounds but still a fact out there for the fuckers to feed off to justify the actions.
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I got told yesterday about a young girl who was beheaded, put in the boot of a car and why hasn't that been reported? I replied, because it didn't happen
 
Del Woppio said:
I dunno - at least 50 racist yobs have stormed into a hotel that's filled with asylum seekers. I presume they're not gonna be playing scrabble.
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The OB have said no one inside was hurt or even attacked though.

It's not T'Death Wish starring Charleh Bronson.
 
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Del Woppio said:
I dunno - at least 50 racist yobs have stormed into a hotel that's filled with asylum seekers. I presume they're not gonna be playing scrabble.
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It's all noise, nasty, disgusting, scary for those targeted, noise. They aren't committed enough to try and kill someone, they don't even know what they are protesting against other than an extremely basic racist premise. The danger comes with the reaction and counter reaction, which isn't happening today.
 
Bet the vending machines in reception took a battering
 
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