Relegation run in 22/23 ** Now a Wolves free zone**

[b3h]

Fwiw I have Palace, West Ham, Bournemouth and Everton winning. Leeds, Southampton and Leicester losing so a defeat would leave us 16th and 1 point clear, a draw 14th 2 points clear, a win we'd stay 13th and be 4 points clear

Just reading that shows how mad the table is

 

[jd1981]

Well at least Chris Wood can’t score his annual goal against us as he’s out for the season

 

[Tredman]

Hate to say it, but the home fans at the City Ground are currently miles ahead of our flag waving support. All four stands got behind them vocally at the recent cup game. And they had a banging prematch playlist being played at volume 11.

Loud volume is the one thing Wolves do have sorted.

 

[Derby Wolf]

⁰ĺHate to say it, but the home fans at the City Ground are currently miles ahead of our flag waving support. All four stands got behind them vocally at the recent cup game. And they had a banging prematch playlist being played at volume 11.

They've also just been Vinny'd for the first time.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Opta reckon we have easier fixtures than Forest and Everton, and essentially the same as Southampton. We're above all of them before a ball's kicked.

It'll be our own fault if we do go down, on a micro and macro level.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Opta reckon we have easier fixtures than Forest and Everton, and essentially the same as Southampton. We're above all of them before a ball's kicked.

It'll be our own fault if we do go down, on a micro and macro level.

Fixtures is one thing, but injuries and refereeing decisions are just as critical.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not for me.

If we do go down then I'm not having any hard luck sob stories, just no. It'll be on merit and because of decisions the club took over a three year period.

If we stay up then we've done it having needlessly dug ourselves a ridiculous hole, so the players and staff will deserve credit and we need to learn from what went wrong.

 

[Alan]

Whatever I may feel in the heat of the moment regarding refereeing decisions, I do think that the Prem's round-robin format means that by 38 games in, the table is pretty damn accurate.

Let's face it, we've largely been ass this season and can have no complaints should the worst come to pass.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Not for me.

If we do go down then I'm not having any hard luck sob stories, just no. It'll be on merit and because of decisions the club took over a three year period.

If we stay up then we've done it having needlessly dug ourselves a ridiculous hole, so the players and staff will deserve credit and we need to learn from what went wrong.

Don’t disagree, was just pointing out that comparing remaining fixtures is a very blunt instrument.

 

[Tony Towner]

Whatever I may feel in the heat of the moment regarding refereeing decisions, I do think that the Prem's round-robin format means that by 38 games in, the table is pretty damn accurate.

Let's face it, we've largely been ass this season and can have no complaints should the worst come to pass.

Don't disagree with this. Decisions even themselves out over the season is a load of bollocks though. Even if you were to get as many go for you as against you some are more crucial than others.

 

[Alan]

Game to game, sure. Over the course of 38? Harder sell for me.

Let's take Newcastle. Should we have had a much better chance at 3 points than we got? Undoubtedly. Did we have every opportunity to win anyway? Also yes.

If we could score with any kind of consistency the refereeing decisions would mean significantly less. That's on us.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's a very simple equation for me.

17 points from 13 games (this is despite losing three games recently that we shouldn't have lost) vs 10 points from 15 games - with all the portents being blindingly obvious that that would happen.

We made that choice out of our own pure free will.

If we get away with it then we got lucky (we're not unique in that respect, others have in the past), if we don't then we signed our own death warrant and I've got zero sympathy.

 

[Alan]

I don't know about "lucky", so much. It's clear that if we stay up these players are going to have to earn it, IMO. When they sleepwalk through a game, they get beat.

Now, if we stay up on the final day by GD but having lost, a la 2010/2011... Then lucky it is.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It will be lucky, if you voluntarily appoint and retain a complete fucking moron - when it's patently obvious that he is ridiculously out of his depth - then you deserve to get relegated.

 

[WsWolf]

What makes you think the players are mentally weak and bottlers?

The fact that we lose most of the big games we play.

 

[Johnny75]

The fact that we lose most of the big games we play.

Going 3 at the back against Newcastle wasn't the players fault.

Staying with 3 DM's when we are crying out for striker support isn't the players fault either.

Playing with 10 men, undeservedly so, and coming back to beat Soton is showing plenty of bottle. Beating Spurs and Liverpool showed real mental strength.

It's there in these players.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The fact that we lose most of the big games we play.

Do we?

We've beaten Everton, West Ham, Southampton, Liverpool and Tottenham since Christmas.

 

[Alan]

Do we?

We've beaten Everton, West Ham, Southampton, Liverpool and Tottenham since Christmas.

"Six pointers" that we win don't get remembered the same as the ones we lose innit

 

[1986]

The contrast between the lead up to the Leeds match and this match could not be more obvious . There is genuine fear here that we could lose this and the consequences of same .

You would like to think that all Management staff are driving this message home to all the players this week . The dynamic is quite different this time . We cannot take any team for granted at this stage .

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I've never got the impression that we've done that in any game.

We essentially aren't that good; we don't score many and we give away too many soft goals. This means we lose games that we shouldn't. This is the legacy of April 2021 (or you could argue August 2020) to November 2022.