Relegation run in 22/23 ** Now a Wolves free zone**

[jd1981]

Yeah I think lose Saturday and I think we’re staring down the barrel. Probably not worse than 3 others but I think we’ll be mentally done in.
As many of us have said even if we had just drawn against Bournemouth and Leeds our position would look far better.
Pretty simple with Saturday win I think we’ll stay up, draw still in the balance, lose I think we’ll go down.
Yes not set in stone but I think it’ll highlight a serious mental flaw in the squad.
I really don’t fancy us in a must win v Brentford after possibly 4 games without a win.

 

[Loki]

Not confident at all, if they come out all guns blazing then I can see our shaky defence going to pieces. It all depends if they have done their homework.

 

[Tony Towner]

Fwiw I have Palace, West Ham, Bournemouth and Everton winning. Leeds, Southampton and Leicester losing so a defeat would leave us 16th and 1 point clear, a draw 14th 2 points clear, a win we'd stay 13th and be 4 points clear

 

[1986]

If we lose it will be 3 defeats on the bounce - Leicester had that recently and it looked bad for them , but it could be over for them now and they might recover , whereas our bad run might just be middle way gone .

All about timing . Have your bad run at the right time .

I'd take a point .

I'm looking for a reaction too after the League Cup quarter final .

You have to remember too that they are also on a bad run and as a result will be nervous as well .

Huge game .

 

[sycophantia]

I'd just like us not to lose our shit. If we can do that our 'quality' should be enough to ensure at least a point.

 

[WsWolf]

As alluded to above. This current set of players might be talented but they are absolute bottlers and mentally weak. I'd be amazed if we win the weekend.

 

[Johnny75]

As alluded to above. This current set of players might be talented but they are absolute bottlers and mentally weak. I'd be amazed if we win the weekend.

What makes you think the players are mentally weak and bottlers?

 

[prawnking]

As alluded to above. This current set of players might be talented but they are absolute bottlers and mentally weak. I'd be amazed if we win the weekend.

I'd say they've let their emotions and ref decisions get the better of them recently, rather than them being bottlers.

JL needs to work on helping them focus.

 

[sycophantia]

I'd say they've let their emotions and ref decisions get the better of them recently, rather than them being bottlers.

JL needs to work on helping them focus.

Yeah I think so, JL somehow needs to get them to let the adversity feed their determination, just lately they just appear petulant when things go against them.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'd say they've let their emotions and ref decisions get the better of them recently, rather than them being bottlers.

JL needs to work on helping them focus.

I'm not even sure that's impacted on results particularly.

We got a stinking decision vs Newcastle when it was 0-0. We conceded soon afterwards, hung on a bit, improved a lot after half time and deservedly equalised. We then conceded again largely because the manager made an error in changing formation (and Kilman and Collins made the kind of errors they've been making all season). Nothing to do with losing our heads due to a crap ref.

We probably should have had a penalty vs Leeds. But we were already losing because we gave away a crap goal. We then gave away another two crap goals. Nothing to do with the penalty call. Then, true, we did collectively lose discipline after the mess of the fourth goal, but it impacted on nothing, the game was gone.

If it bothered us that much then we wouldn't have won at Southampton.

 

[Tony Towner]

I'd say they've let their emotions and ref decisions get the better of them recently, rather than them being bottlers.

JL needs to work on helping them focus.

It stems from him. It does from kids football upwards

 

[PuntsWolf]

As alluded to above. This current set of players might be talented but they are absolute bottlers and mentally weak. I'd be amazed if we win the weekend.

Yep. Don’t think it’s a new thing either really.

Is it because the majority of the squad
Are from big clubs in week leagues? And out of the ones who aren’t, Collins and Kilman don’t exactly scream “warrior”. Where’s Romain Saiss when you need him.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Would "bottlers" beat Everton, West Ham and Southampton, when they're all part of the group we're directly competing with? From a goal down in two of them as well, away from home.

Surely they'd crumble in those fixtures.

 

[Johnny75]

Yep. Don’t think it’s a new thing either really.

Is it because the majority of the squad
Are from big clubs in week leagues? And out of the ones who aren’t, Collins and Kilman don’t exactly scream “warrior”. Where’s Romain Saiss when you need him.

What have you seen to say they are bottlers and mentally weak?

 

[sycophantia]

I'm not even sure that's impacted on results particularly.

We got a stinking decision vs Newcastle when it was 0-0. We conceded soon afterwards, hung on a bit, improved a lot after half time and deservedly equalised. We then conceded again largely because the manager made an error in changing formation (and Kilman and Collins made the kind of errors they've been making all season). Nothing to do with losing our heads due to a crap ref.

We probably should have had a penalty vs Leeds. But we were already losing because we gave away a crap goal. We then gave away another two crap goals. Nothing to do with the penalty call. Then, true, we did collectively lose discipline after the mess of the fourth goal, but it impacted on nothing, the game was gone.

If it bothered us that much then we wouldn't have won at Southampton.

Bottlers is probably the wrong word, PKs description was nearer the mark imo.
Don't think it affected the Leeds game but I think it did against Newcastle, after the penalty wasn't awarded we completely lost any sense of control and Newcastle battered us, lucky not to concede any more before half time. After the break we really upped our game till we equalised and JL went all 'Lage' on us.

 

[Johnny75]

Bottlers is probably the wrong word, PKs description was nearer the mark imo.
Don't think it affected the Leeds game but I think it did against Newcastle, after the penalty wasn't awarded we completely lost any sense of control and Newcastle battered us, lucky not to concede any more before half time. After the break we really upped our game till we equalised and JL went all 'Lage' on us.

That isn't true.

We got a bad decision for the free kick and badly marked. The rest of the half we were under the cosh but not battered by any stretch.

We battered them in the second half and but for the manager making a stupid decision we would've won imo.

Mentally weak players wouldn't have put up that fight in the second half.

 

[Alan]

I’m not certain we’re mentally weak but we absolutely lack a player who rises above adversity consistently.

 

[SSB]

Not confident at all, if they come out all guns blazing then I can see our shaky defence going to pieces. It all depends if they have done their homework.

Hate to say it, but the home fans at the City Ground are currently miles ahead of our flag waving support. All four stands got behind them vocally at the recent cup game. And they had a banging prematch playlist being played at volume 11.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Would "bottlers" beat Everton, West Ham and Southampton, when they're all part of the group we're directly competing with? From a goal down in two of them as well, away from home.

Surely they'd crumble in those fixtures.

I think Saints is fair even with the Nathan Jones effect.

Don’t Think the other two games had the same magnitude given the stage of the season though (and don’t even think we played well in one of them either)

What have you seen to say they are bottlers and mentally weak?

Just my view from how things have gone over the last few years. Probably doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny like “Spursy” or recent Arsenal being weak probably doesn’t. And maybe just a glass half full outlook.

 

[Tony Towner]

That's the nature of 5th season in the PL versus 1st in 20 years