REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[visage]

I'm not sure how reliable this website is, but in 2015, they reckon "the EU sells about £70 billion more to us in goods and services than we sell to it, according to UK data — so the UK runs a “trade deficit” with the rest of the EU.

https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

On their graph, it shows the country's we buy the most off are Germany, Spain, France, Belgium, Italy and Poland.

It would be nice to think we could negotiate individual trade deals with everyone if we had to, but the main ones would be the above six, plus a few others, Some countries are at zero or very little. If we want to agree a tariff-free deal, surely we wouldn't need permission from everyone else ? If so, I think, for example, Germany and the UK would carry on with a trade deal regardless, as neither would want a detrimental effect on their economy.

Some would argue that Germany would probably survive without our trade, but would they really cut their nose off to spite their face because we are leaving the EU ? Obviously the EU will want to be seen taking a tough line to ward off any other countries who are thinking of voting to leave, but would they really miss Estonia, Croatia, Cyprus, Slovenia etc. Whereas we are the fifth largest economy in the world.

Time for loads of tough talking gesture politics, only to end up pretty much where we are now in terms of trading, two years from now ??

EU countries arent allowed to sign individual trade deals.

 

[So Long Architect]

Me and the Missus stopped buying Cadbury's after they changed their 'recipes'. Bloody Yanks !

What the hell did they do to our Creme Eggs ?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/the-many-ways-cadbury-is-losing-its-magic/


Apparently any chocolate produced in the EU must contain at least 30% cocoa. Did I dream it or did Cadburys have a higher cocoa content in their chocolate before the takeover ? Whatever they did their chocolate just does not taste the same for us anymore. Maybe by putting in a lower percentage content of cocoa, they can save loads of money ?

Also the EU allows 'a different type' of milk chocolate to be sold in the UK.

I prefer Lindt chocolate which apparently can get mixed for 12 hours or more, while Hershey's or Cadbury's, may be mixed for only two or three hours. Not sure how long Cadburys used to mix it before the takeover, but now it just does not taste like Cadburys should.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31924912


This is bad enough but if ever Bathams or Holdens changed their Bitter recipe, even I would have to consider emigrating.

I hate to think what Paddingtonwolf would do ?

I agree it's not what it used to be, but it's not down to cocoa content which was around 25% in old Cadbury's if I recall correctly. Maybe they're only using a glass rather than a glass-and-a-half.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Can't imagine Pad drinking that Pi$$water ?

I am a lager drinker who also likes real ales like bathams. Basically anything with a percentage (bar Campari) is fair game.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I am a lager drinker who also likes real ales like bathams. Basically anything with a percentage (bar Campari) is fair game.

Solid shout on Campari, rank.

 

[ProgWolf]

EU countries arent allowed to sign individual trade deals.

Even so, will they just do it anyway ?

 

[Tredman]

Even so, will they just do it anyway ?

No, they absolutely cannot. You might think they can and you might think they will, but they cannot. Happy to place an enormous wager on that if you like.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Whilst they can't do it the EU as a block can and given that those six could lose 70 billion between them I am hopeful they see sense and a deal that is mutually beneficial is struck

 

[visage]

So yet again brexit comes down to hoping that the EU that we're leaving will be kind to us.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

So yet again brexit comes down to hoping that the EU that we're leaving will be kind to us.

Does it hell Vis. If the big six want to spunk 70 billion a year then they could do it. Common sense says they won't! Its all about money

 

[visage]

EU GDP is 16 trillion euros. Seventy billion is a rounding error.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

What if British consumers love for the EU products is strong enough to sustain the sales in spite of new tariffs? Then the Germans et al who should apparently be scared of losing £70bn could actually end up within even more money in their pockets.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

EU GDP is 16 trillion euros. Seventy billion is a rounding error.

You and your rounding errors. 600 million rounding error on the NHS and now 70 billion on the EU.. Bloody glad you aren't my accountant mate

 

[visage]

You couldn't afford me.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

You couldn't afford me.

I couldn't afford your write offs

 

[Tredman]

Bunch of fucking idiots

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Bunch of $#@!ing idiots

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Fuck me!
Let's campaign to leave and then say that actually staying in part is essential. Doh! Lol

 

[leedswolf]

Unfuckingbelievable.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Reckless by name...

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Reckless by name...

Yes but surely for ukip this is turkeys and Christmas territory?

 

[Tony Towner]

Wales voting out in general was bizarre given the significant investment they had received, but obviously they will get an equal amount or more from a Conservative government.