I think some of us have regretted some of the things we have said on here, or even the way we have said them, sometimes unintentionally. I know I have, and as DW said, I have cringed when I have read some of them back in the cold light of day.
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I think some of us have regretted some of the things we have said on here, or even the way we have said them, sometimes unintentionally. I know I have, and as DW said, I have cringed when I have read some of them back in the cold light of day.
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I met Sue last Christmas. She is a wonderful lady, and it was a pleasure to finally meet her.
Very rare I get up to Wolves games nowadays, last one was about 2 years ago. Hoping to get to a game next season so will give a shout out then if anyone wants a pre-match beer.
If anyone ever visits leafy suburbia then feel free to give me a shout though :icon_mrgreen:
If anyone ever visits leafy suburbia then feel free to give me a shout though :icon_mrgreen:
Trips, stop it !!! :beerchug:
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I think I spotted you at your good lady at one of the seasonal markets once, definitely 'full beard' at that point.
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Yeah was probably me. I've had 'full beard' at all the seasonal markets. I remember seeing someone I thought might have been you but wasn't sure as I don't know exactly what you look like. I think you got there early doors and went straight to Low N' Slow.
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Sounds about right, we usually try and get there early before it gets to busy.
Don't think we've been to one for a while actually, think the next one is the weekend before my birthday so might get to go and be treated to some fine eats.
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New poll shows EU support in Germany at record high. If they held EU ref today: 75% remain; 10% leave; 15% undecided.
Support in Germany for the European Union has never been higher in the past 25 years despite a rise of populist and eurosceptic parties across the continent, a survey showed on Thursday.
Support in Germany for the European Union has never been higher in the past 25 years despite a rise of populist and eurosceptic parties across the continent, a survey showed on Thursday.
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That doesn't surprise me as effectively the EU is an extension of Germany and they do hold all the cards.
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Seems to me that the UK had pretty good cards from day one but didn't really join in the game. Always a little half hearted to the ideal.
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I agree with you and I'm not sure that anybody would be that keen on joining a federal Europe which was surely the end goal for Germany.
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Do you think the UK are better governed by Westminster or would overall standards improve if governed by Berlin?
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That's an odd question to ask. In answer to it I can only say that I know how we govern in Westminster and I am relatively happy with that although they could do it a whole lot better (on both sides of the commons). I've no idea how they do it in Germany so can't tell you if it would be better or worse.
I was largely happy with the status quo of the EU and with better MEP's that took it seriously along with a better reporting from the press I think we really could've made things work to the UK's advantage. Clearly that hasn't happened and we are where we are.
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Look. Just look at what you've done. I hope you're proud of yourselves.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...arns-chocolate-could-get-smaller-after-brexit
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...arns-chocolate-could-get-smaller-after-brexit
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Good debate you two. For what its worth many of the grey generation who were pro leave were very anti federal States of Europe in my experience . I don't know if it had anything to do with h being born during or just after world war 2? Perhaps more suspicious of Germany? EU policy now is very German led. I feel we grew apart from the EU as soon as we did not go with the euro.
Me and the Missus stopped buying Cadbury's after they changed their 'recipes'. Bloody Yanks !
What the hell did they do to our Creme Eggs ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/the-many-ways-cadbury-is-losing-its-magic/
Apparently any chocolate produced in the EU must contain at least 30% cocoa. Did I dream it or did Cadburys have a higher cocoa content in their chocolate before the takeover ? Whatever they did their chocolate just does not taste the same for us anymore. Maybe by putting in a lower percentage content of cocoa, they can save loads of money ?
Also the EU allows 'a different type' of milk chocolate to be sold in the UK.
I prefer Lindt chocolate which apparently can get mixed for 12 hours or more, while Hershey's or Cadbury's, may be mixed for only two or three hours. Not sure how long Cadburys used to mix it before the takeover, but now it just does not taste like Cadburys should.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31924912
This is bad enough but if ever Bathams or Holdens changed their Bitter recipe, even I would have to consider emigrating.
I hate to think what Paddingtonwolf would do ?
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Probably laugh into his pint of Carling.
I'm not sure how reliable this website is, but in 2015, they reckon "the EU sells about £70 billion more to us in goods and services than we sell to it, according to UK data — so the UK runs a “trade deficit” with the rest of the EU.
https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/
On their graph, it shows the country's we buy the most off are Germany, Spain, France, Belgium, Italy and Poland.
It would be nice to think we could negotiate individual trade deals with everyone if we had to, but the main ones would be the above six, plus a few others, Some countries are at zero or very little. If we want to agree a tariff-free deal, surely we wouldn't need permission from everyone else ? If so, I think, for example, Germany and the UK would carry on with a trade deal regardless, as neither would want a detrimental effect on their economy.
Some would argue that Germany would probably survive without our trade, but would they really cut their nose off to spite their face because we are leaving the EU ? Obviously the EU will want to be seen taking a tough line to ward off any other countries who are thinking of voting to leave, but would they really miss Estonia, Croatia, Cyprus, Slovenia etc. Whereas we are the fifth largest economy in the world.
Time for loads of tough talking gesture politics, only to end up pretty much where we are now in terms of trading, two years from now ??
https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/
On their graph, it shows the country's we buy the most off are Germany, Spain, France, Belgium, Italy and Poland.
It would be nice to think we could negotiate individual trade deals with everyone if we had to, but the main ones would be the above six, plus a few others, Some countries are at zero or very little. If we want to agree a tariff-free deal, surely we wouldn't need permission from everyone else ? If so, I think, for example, Germany and the UK would carry on with a trade deal regardless, as neither would want a detrimental effect on their economy.
Some would argue that Germany would probably survive without our trade, but would they really cut their nose off to spite their face because we are leaving the EU ? Obviously the EU will want to be seen taking a tough line to ward off any other countries who are thinking of voting to leave, but would they really miss Estonia, Croatia, Cyprus, Slovenia etc. Whereas we are the fifth largest economy in the world.
Time for loads of tough talking gesture politics, only to end up pretty much where we are now in terms of trading, two years from now ??
Can't imagine Pad drinking that Pi$$water ?
