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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

There's no chance that if Labour win the next General Election, they will try to get the UK back into the EU inside five years. Absolutely zero chance, like less chance than of Wolves winning the Premier League in that timeframe.
 
Put it this way. Would I personally like him to say "I said 7-8 years ago that Brexit was a fucking stupid idea, now look where we are. It needs ripping up as it's a load of nonsense and on no level could it ever work"? Well, something along those lines would be fine by me, as it's true.

Do I think that would win an election? I'd say it places it in much greater jeopardy than what he has said.

Of course the handwringing largely comes from supporters of avowed Brexit fan Jeremy "let's invoke Article 50 on 24 June 2016" Corbyn, which makes no sense.
 
Aye, he's unfortuantely still got to bang the drum of making brexit work or he'll not get elected. Hopefully once they're in there'll be more pressure and less jeopardy when it comes to calling the shitshow a shitshow
 
I'd say you're going to need prolonged and demonstrable 2:1 public support in favour of rejoining before you can start making serious moves in that direction (plus as I say, showing the EU that look, we've got over that brainfade now). We probably will get there but we aren't there now or particularly close.
 
Failure to compromise on Brexit has led us to the point where Starmer is now a vocal supporter of the diamond hard version we've ended up with.
 
That'll forever be the take, it wasn't done right.

Except there is no "right", the equivalent of what they want is if Wolves went to Brighton and said "give us all your good players for fuck all" and they said "ok". In reality there was no way it could ever work, even if you argued the very dubious theoretical case that always tends to loop back to "sovereignty", whatever that is.
 
Our economy has been hit by three factors, Covid, Ukraine War and Brexit and the underlying inflation is not due to the first two but you’d never know that if you listen to Brexiteers and any politician that is desperate not to alienate them.
 
An audience full of people who voted for Brexit yet the government who called the vote and pushed through their version of it won’t have a minister in attendance to defend the outcome. Pathetic really that they don’t even want scrutiny from those on the same side of the argument.
 
Sniffer said:
An audience full of people who voted for Brexit yet the government who called the vote and pushed through their version of it won’t have a minister in attendance to defend the outcome. Pathetic really that they don’t even want scrutiny from those on the same side of the argument.
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Distancing themselves from the bottom dwellers they mobilised to get the win. If they show the viewers who they're in cohorts with it'd be brand damaging.
 
Why is it acceptable for the BBC to have an audience of entirely leave voters? Where is the balance in that? Fucking disgrace.
 
Seemed more of a point and laugh at the poor old saps / idiot racists than anything else.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
Why is it acceptable for the BBC to have an audience of entirely leave voters? Where is the balance in that? Fucking disgrace.
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I thought it was a useful exercise tbh, and a very decent show. Campbell actually managed to show remarkable restraint in some of his arguments. Very interesting that 20% of the leave voters there would change their mind if there was a vote tomorrow.

Similar numbers in a poll this morning:

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Del Woppio said:
I thought it was a useful exercise tbh, and a very decent show. Campbell actually managed to show remarkable restraint in some of his arguments. Very interesting that 20% of the leave voters there would change their mind if there was a vote tomorrow.

Similar numbers in a poll this morning:

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That’s both interesting and encouraging.
 
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