So to give some balance, here is a brexiters view as you lot in the main are rabid remainers :happy:
You know my reasons for voting out. They are well documented. You know my stance softened over the last few months because
1. Ireland border is impossible
2. The whole negotiation process was a clusterfuck
3. Mays deal , quite simply isnt, its robbery.
3 years ago I asked in fact pleased for something else to vote for. Hopefully that is coming. What TIG et al turn in to is still unknown. Whatever, is still 100% better than pretty much anything currently in government and about 90% better than the opposition and I am not just dissing Corbyn. Abbott is singularly the worst politician I have ever heard. She is Grayling levels of stupid so I could never go down that road while she has an opportunity of office. Corbyn last night finally gave a speech worthy of an opposition leader but , me old son, the country needed to hear that a long while ago even if it was not in Labours gift. He has in my view, been conspicuous by his absence. He may end up been rememebered as the right leader at the wrong time. His policies do not fit well with coming out of austerity and dealing with brexit IMHO. It is to big a leap. Thats why , like him or hate him. Blair being the most Tory labour leader got the votes he did.
I would now welcome a 2nd referendum to put this all to bed but the choice can only be Remain or a Proper deal , a deal that is more akin to a soft brexit and gives us at least some of the benefits we worked hard as part of the EEC and then EU to achieve rather than completely throwing the baby away with the bath water. That will take time, so make time. It has been completely apparent that no majority in parliament would ever be pro brexit. Those charged with it were never fuilly behind it and those fully behind it were never going to be in charge, thank god. The UK parliament now needs to find a solution that can get cross party support and deliver a brexit that ticks enough Exit boxes to appease the 17.4m while keeping enough of the good stuff to appease the 16.8m remainers. It was always that , it just took a lot of shit to get there.
The country needs to learn form this and ensure we are NEVER put in such a devisive position again. To do that we need a REAL alternative. Whilst I like some green policies, they are not there yet. Personally , they elected the wrong Milliband but thats just me.
The first thing this country needs to get over is its obsession with tax cuts and low taxation. I think the system needs to be fairer and a system that goes up in 5% chunks is better than the current system. But we need to pay more tax. Its a fact. We cannot have an infrastructure for 50 million that needs to support 70m and complain when it doesnt work. We cannot moan about rising crime and yet not have a visible police presence on the streets, you cannot have a homeless problem and then find out that a signifcant number of those homeless are ex services. You cannot keep using the huge amounts of energy from abroad. You need alternatives. There is so much that a government actually needs to get a grip of and this Referendum shit has got in the way. We are 3 years behind the curve. Now of course I am a little pissed off that what I voted for wont happen but if I get some of it I will shut up and fuck off as will most of the reasonable leave voters and , believe it or not , most are reasonable people. There will still be racists, bigots, sexists, perverts, criminals and general wankers to be dealt with but at least if a sensible cross party agreement is sorted we can all move on. Thank fuck for that.