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Johnny75 said:
I don't usually reply to you but as you're using statistics I thought I'd correct you and tell you why you're wrong.

  • The UK Population was 65.6m in 2016
  • 18% of that population was 65+, this is 11.8m
  • The turnout for voters 65+ was 90% (10.63m)
  • 64% of the 65+ vote was to leave (6.8m)
  • The leave vote was 17.4m
  • The number of people over 65 who voted leave as a % is 40. That's 40% of all the leave votes were by people who have had the complete benefits of the EU from start to finish.
  • Voter turnout was 72.2% (33.55m)
  • There were over 160K hip, knee and ankle replacement surgeries in the UK. I would suggest if there are riots that number may go up considerably.
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It is fair to say that racists voted to leave the EU and the likes of Tommy Robinson would not vote to remain so round those up and you are left with the 40% of old people.

It is also fair to say that the 65+ people will not suffer the same pain as the working population in terms of movement of jobs and uncertainty in the economy as those younger then them for an extended period of time. Maybe when the older generation have all died in 10 years or so we can address a new Union.

Your racism comments are ignorant and do not need reply. I am disgusted that you think a racist is only somebody who gets reported.
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38% is 6.8 million. That means 62% were not pensioners. Thanks for proving that.
Nice giant leap with the racism assumption!

And where do you stand on dementure then? Subject for amusement and ridicule? You are so quick and viperous with your racist trigger accusations for anyone who dared vote leave yet you insult people with a genuine illness and disability. Hypocrite
 
Cyber-_-man said:
38% is 6.8 million. That means 62% were not pensioners. Thanks for proving that.
Nice giant leap with the racism assumption!

And where do you stand on dementure then? Subject for amusement and ridicule? You are so quick and viperous with your racist trigger accusations for anyone who dared vote leave yet you insult people with a genuine illness and disability. Hypocrite
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Bananas. That'll be my last post to you as you aren't worth my time. Back on ignore you go.
 
Thank Christ for that! I can get back to discussing things without unnecessary rudeness and backhanded bigotry.
 
Because somehow the War and Empire for them signify everything that makes us GREAT Britain and better than everyone else. It's pricks like this both inside and outside of Parliament who'd happily have us leave without a deal because we will somehow overcome the rest of the World with our natural superiority
 
Because about the only good they could do for the country is die for it.
 
Pricks.

You know, we were rather in the shit (although holding our own with no ability to get back onto the continent) until Japan decided it would be an ace idea to get the Americans involved.

Spirit of the Blitz is all wonderful and stiff upper lip and all that, but this idea that WE won the war single-handed and saved Frenchie from speaking German is absolute and complete bollocks.

(Plus Hitler invading Russia was key as well. Clear act of an absolute nutjob. If he stayed pally with Stalin then even with the Americans we would have been struggling to win)
 
To even remember the Second World War now (just remember it, not to have participated in it) you'd need to be in your early 80s.

There is an ever decreasing number of surviving servicemen from that conflict. Let's say you signed up at 18 in 1944 to catch the very end of it - that would make you 93 at some point this year.

It's shameless appropriation of something they had fuck all to do with. "We're old, we fought for your freedom". No you didn't. You reaped the benefits that those who did gave you. You had as much to do with it as I did, and I was born almost 36 years after the end of the war.

My Grandad would be truly ashamed of these people and the state of this country if he were still around today. An actual decorated war hero. He was delighted that I had the opportunity to go and work in Germany and have an experience that people of his generation never had.
 
we look for new answers in the modern age, I for one prefer the tried and tested recipes, like speaking well of each other and respecting different points of view; coming together to seek out the common ground; and never losing sight of the bigger picture. To me, these approaches are timeless, and I commend them to everyone.”

Queen, The
 
Easy to say when you never have to worry about anything ever.
 
Johnny75 said:
Some of the responses to that are brilliant. I thought it was a Brass Eye style wind up at first but no this half Italian man is tearing up letters live on the TV.
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I think some people think that the UK is attached by a chain to Europe and will just float away post brexit. We have not voted to leave europe. We will remain part of Europe. We have voted to leave a created club and even then don't have a clear way of doing that so that is still far from certain.
 
But most of those involved want all the benefits of the club and none of the difficulties attached. Which is a nonsensical stance. Like we told you two years ago.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
But most of those involved want all the benefits of the club and none of the difficulties attached. Which is a nonsensical stance. Like we told you two years ago.
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Not quite true though.

The UK joined the club while not agreeing to club rules. As new rules were added they still disagreed to a point where the club management asked them to consider their membership. Which they did. Now it turns out that the club is not an easy one to leave for a multitude of reasons on both sides about 60/40 our problem. But here we are two years later with no clearer picture of how to solve those issues.We remain part of Europe though. And will do post brexit.
 
Tyrannosaurus Dan said:
Tim Martin is a colossal prick. I was fuming that he sent me his pro-No Deal Brexit propaganda bullshit through the post last week.
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Tim Martin is a piss filled clown-shoe. We should start Wexit and take back control and promote independently run pubs that provide quality and pay their staff a decent wage.
 
Cyber-_-man said:
Not quite true though.

The UK joined the club while not agreeing to club rules. As new rules were added they still disagreed to a point where the club management asked them to consider their membership. Which they did. Now it turns out that the club is not an easy one to leave for a multitude of reasons on both sides about 60/40 our problem. But here we are two years later with no clearer picture of how to solve those issues.We remain part of Europe though. And will do post brexit.
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That's all fine and dandy, but the UK had a vote in every piece of legislation that got passed through the EU institutions. It's not the EU's fault that the likes of Farage didn't attend the meetings that he was supposed to, as members of both Parliament and specialized comissions. It's not like everything changed overnight without the UK having a say in it.
 
jdrodrigues said:
That's all fine and dandy, but the UK had a vote in every piece of legislation that got passed through the EU institutions. It's not the EU's fault that the likes of Farage didn't attend the meetings that he was supposed to, as members of both Parliament and specialized comissions. It's not like everything changed overnight without the UK having a say in it.
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I agree. The UK had a say in every piece of legislation however it also had vetos, no schenghen agreement and no euro. It was and its a very trucculent member of the club and was quite rightly derided at times by other countries for its attitude to the longer term EU mission. It is absolutely no surprise that we are where we are I am afraid.
 
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