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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

People love a good old bottled water panic buy!
 
I suppose the bright side is it might promote grey water recycling. Pigs might fly too.
 
Re Jezza - the problem is that he's been utterly passive for the last 2 years. His supporters will claim he was playing the long game, but I think he's just not very good at leading.

He should have been on every news bulletin, radio show, sunday morning politics show etc, pointing out that Brexit will make poor people poorer, and cost working class jobs. Hammer that message over and over, and point out that even if 52% want that he could not, as leader of the Labour party, support it. Keep doing that and you'd see the tide turning.

Those Labour heartlands hes so worried about losing? Persuade them. Use those alleged powers of persuasion against those who disagree with him, rather than mincing around at Glastonbury or JezFest.
 
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So as a brexiter I mailed my colours to the mast early on. However , the world moves on. The EU is now not the EU we voted to leave. It has been given a real bloody nose. The direction that ended with the United States of Europe is pretty much dead. Cameron Merkil and Junkcker are not the force they were. Brexiter voters delivered a bloody nose and caused a change in direction. So now it appears the facts supports that we are better off within the EU.i am cool with that. To me it's win win. The direction is changed and we are better off. Sure, many of you told me this. But the bloody nose needed to happen. I have always believed that we would not leave the EU. I still think that. It's taken 2 years of shit to prove it
 
What a load of bollocks. EU doesn’t have a bloody nose, well it does from within not from anything the UK has done.
 
What a load of bollocks. EU doesn’t have a bloody nose, well it does from within not from anything the UK has done.

The EU has had not only a bloody nose but a kick in the bollocks. If you really think that brexit in its current options are real then you are on planet zog. There is absolutely no way we are leaving. I just can't see it. Please, enlighten me how it now happens.? The best leavers can hope for is a different remain

We can not solve Ireland therefore leaving is dead, finished, fucked. No way are we signing up to a shit deal. No way are we going with no deal. We are staying.
 
... and how does that translate into a bloody nose? I very much doubt we are as important as you think we are; we're merely being viewed as a petulant child.
 
... and how does that translate into a bloody nose? I very much doubt we are as important as you think we are; we're merely being viewed as a petulant child.

Wake up man

World's 5*the biggest economy

Failing to see that is ridiculous.

The way Britain has as a people, been brave enough to take a stand has had a real impact.npolitics this century will not be the same. To think otherwise is blinkered and naive
 
It really hasn't. We have acted like a five year old in the playground moaning when the teacher takes the ball away at the end of breaktime.
 
Personally, the way remainers have carried on for two years has not helped but ultimately you will get your way. We will not leave the EU is my prediction. But Merkel and Cameron are history. That's a plus
 
So is Farage and his cult of xenophobic personality. That is a much much bigger plus
 
Oh, and we have not before?
Great you see that after two years of calling me a cunt you see that I was right that the UK was so out of step with the EU conflict was inevitable. You are quite right. For twenty years we have been seen as the petulant child. We have more vetos than anyone. But the last two years have shown we were right to object even if we don't end up with our own way by leaving. We have pissed them off but scared them too enough to get a backtrack. Without a brexit vote I do not think that would ever have happened
 
So to sum up as I can't be arsed to fight.

May remains pm but is hoped just above the waterline.
Brexit negotiation continues
Article 50 will be postponed
We won't leave.

You heard it hear first
 
Cyber, cyber, cyber, we absolutely aren't going to fight now. I will play nice and I know you will too.

As I see it we are both frustrated by this outcome. Nobody wins. But the best result is to put the whole damn charade to bed.
 
So, to clarify:

In a best case scenario, we will gain exactly nothing from the last two and a half years - if we ignore rabid fantasies about having to change all the motorway signs to kilometres and us all waking up one Sunday morning with a ton of €1 coins in our pocket rather than £1 coins - but we have almost certainly lost all goodwill within Europe that previously existed, exposed ourselves as hopeless negotiators and strategists, and we had to rupture the country politically to do that (the long-term consequences of which are yet to be seen)? And in doing so, stirred up some horrific far-right movements and increased hate crimes along the way? And paralyse everything else for two and a half years, when there are massive questions on productivity, underemployment, welfare, social care, the NHS? And have Theresa May as PM? And shrink the economy for all this time from where it should have been?

Yeah, great, I'm glad we did that.

It was a dick move from a dickhead of a PM, an incredibly stupid thing to do and if we somehow fluke cancelling it, that still applies.
 
Wake up man

World's 5*the biggest economy

Failing to see that is ridiculous.

The way Britain has as a people, been brave enough to take a stand has had a real impact.npolitics this century will not be the same. To think otherwise is blinkered and naive

For the record, we're down to 7th having been overtaken by France and now, India due to Brexit.

I merely want to know how (preferably with proof) what we have done is anything more than a mild irritation.
 
Cyber, cyber, cyber, we absolutely aren't going to fight now. I will play nice and I know you will too.

As I see it we are both frustrated by this outcome. Nobody wins. But the best result is to put the whole damn charade to bed.

Agreed.

Waste of two years.

Cameron should be shot together with a number of others.

Let's sort this crap and move on.
 
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