REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Johnny75]

I wish it worked like that...we have 2 kids and a combined income of around £31k and we've never been able to get any tax credits.

How so? If you and your wife both work more than 16 hours and have childcare you should be eligible. They include home schooling in that too.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Last time we checked we weren't eligible. We don't have childcare (we don't home school any more either) which may be what stopped us? I might have to get my wife to check again if we're eligible!

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Just had a quick check and we've possibly been missing out on £31.07 every 4 weeks for Child Tax Credits. I could have sworn we weren't eligible last time we looked!
My wife is in the process of applying for new jobs anyway so there's no point in applying for it now.

 

[Johnny75]

Just had a quick check and we've possibly been missing out on £31.07 every 4 weeks for Child Tax Credits. I could have sworn we weren't eligible last time we looked!
My wife is in the process of applying for new jobs anyway so there's no point in applying for it now.

They changed the rules last year and you should apply no matter if your wife is looking for jobs as it's based on your circumstances now. Might be worth asking if they can back date it too, the worst answer you can get is no.

I'm going to caveat this next bit with, 'I'm no tax expert' and I know there are some on here who are, so, if your wife's earnings are below the tax free threshold (£11K) you can transfer some of her tax free threshold to you.

Say she earns £8Kpa then you can transfer the remaining £3K taxable income to yourself. I only know this is that is what my friend has done with his wife who works part time. Might be worth looking into and you can do it all online.

 

[Sniffer]

Just had a quick check and we've possibly been missing out on £31.07 every 4 weeks for Child Tax Credits. I could have sworn we weren't eligible last time we looked!
My wife is in the process of applying for new jobs anyway so there's no point in applying for it now.

That is a price of a ticket to go and watch Wolves once a month (or some more important/vital things for the family) and they may backdate your claim T-Dan. Give it a go as the worst that can happen is that when Mrs Dan gets her new job you tell them your updated details.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I'm going to caveat this next bit with, 'I'm no tax expert' and I know there are some on here who are, so, if your wife's earnings are below the tax free threshold (£11K) you can transfer some of her tax free threshold to you.

Yeah, I already get that as she only earns about £6k a year.

EDIT: As mentioned below there is a limit. It's about £200 a year max.

 

[nimrod]

They changed the rules last year and you should apply no matter if your wife is looking for jobs as it's based on your circumstances now. Might be worth asking if they can back date it too, the worst answer you can get is no.

I'm going to caveat this next bit with, 'I'm no tax expert' and I know there are some on here who are, so, if your wife's earnings are below the tax free threshold (£11K) you can transfer some of her tax free threshold to you.

Say she earns £8Kpa then you can transfer the remaining £3K taxable income to yourself. I only know this is that is what my friend has done with his wife who works part time. Might be worth looking into and you can do it all online.

10% limit I think.
from gov.uk Marriage Allowance lets you transfer £1,150 of your Personal Allowance to your husband, wife or civil partner - if they earn more than you. This reduces their tax by up to £230 in the tax year (6 April to 5 April the next year). To benefit as a couple, you (as the lower earner) must have an income of £11,500 or less

 

[Templeton Peck]

Still a lot of work to do on this it seems. I'd prefer a monthly payment for all so it could eliminate the current welfare system. Also, asking people what they will spend it on sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare to me.

 

[AndyWolves]

Is it £10,000 for everyone over 2 years?

"The fund would be built from public debt, levies on untaxed corporate assets and investments in long term infrastructure projects, and be similar to Norway's $1 trillion sovereign wealth fund."

If I'm understanding this correctly, being built from public debt means they're going to borrow to pay for this? That doesn't sound like it will end well

For what it's worth, I'm not sure the universal basic income will be needed. As technology advances humans find more things to do, most of the jobs we have today wouldn't have existed 30-40 years ago and wouldn't have even been conceived of.

The idea that somehow the everything will just "work" and humans won't have anything to do just seems unrealistic to me. This is what's happened throughout history, each technological advance has meant humans are able to go and do something else.

 

[Langers]

Well this is reassuring. :icon_lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43120277

As I read on Twitter earlier:

So we've gone from

"We'll be much better off out of the EU"

via

"A little economic slowdown is a price worth paying for sovereignty"

calling at

"All the forecasts say it's going to be bad but it's the will of the people"

and now we've reached

"I promise we won't become an actual post-apocalyptic wasteland."

What next?

"OK, it will be a post-apocalyptic wasteland but at least there won't be zombies."

What a clusterfuck.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

So

It sounds like a minimum 2 years transition
Freedom of movement to continue without restriction in that two years
No Veto to block new EU laws in that period
No power to implement trade deals without EU permission.

AWESOME NEGOTIATING SKILLZ

 

[visage]

Its obviously the EU's fault for not just giving us everything we want because we're GREAT BRITAIN. Or remainers for not using the power of positivism to do the same.

 

[Tredman]

Don't forget the fuck off massive EU budget contributions we wil be making which should, according to the bus, be going to the NHS.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Don't forget the $#@! off massive EU budget contributions we wil be making which should, according to the bus, be going to the NHS.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Good speech by Corbyn today, heavy on facts and reality, not relying on baseless rhetoric and finally making a clear dividing line between Labour and the rabid element of the Tories on Brexit. Two years too late, but still.

Of course May's response is just to say "we aren't joining a customs union", the gimp. No answers.

 

[Trips]

Haven't had chance to see his speech yet. Any key points he made?

 

[Kenny]

Good speech by Corbyn today, heavy on facts and reality, not relying on baseless rhetoric and finally making a clear dividing line between Labour and the rabid element of the Tories on Brexit. Two years too late, but still.

Of course May's response is just to say "we aren't joining a customs union", the gimp. No answers.

Not seen it but it's getting a lot of shit on Twitter.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/full-text-jeremy-corbyns-brexit-speech-2/

Full text there, don't think I'd do it justice if I attempted to summarise it myself. There's a lot of good stuff in there.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not seen it but it's getting a lot of shit on Twitter.

Because he's a Communist who spied for the Russians and will take us back to the 70s.

Same as anything that Blair says is ignored because he's a "war criminal".

If Theresa May ever said anything of any value whatsoever then I'd appraise it on the content, not on the fact that she's a horrendous religious puritan with a penchant for Stalinist control of information. Doesn't look like I'll ever have to do that though.

 

[Johnny75]

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/full-text-jeremy-corbyns-brexit-speech-2/

Full text there, don't think I'd do it justice if I attempted to summarise it myself. There's a lot of good stuff in there.

It's a line in the sand at least. The EU stuff I can agree with other than the daft example of the mini as then he goes on about climate change. The simple answer the Brexit voters will come up with is 'at least the mini can now have a British engine'. The fact that the 'mini' brand is owned by the Germans will irk a lot of folks who voted Brexit as it will stoke their xenophobic fires.

Hard to argue that if an engine could be made in the UK in a factory and fitted there it would be worse for the environment than shipping cars to and from Munich.

I don't agree with most of home policies but at least we can see what they are trying to do rather than the Tories doing...erm...I don't know.