REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[visage]

Its an improvment, but its still a case of saying 'Our version of Brexit will fuck your life up marginally less than their version'

 

[Trips]

Is there a version of Brexit that won't fuck things up? Apart from scrapping the idea completely

 

[visage]

No.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Exactly. Corbyn is offering chilli con carne with carrots and chickpeas in. It's not very good, is it. Better than what the Tories are offering though.

 

[Tredman]

Yes a 'Red, White & Blue Brexit' will solve it all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/38223990/theresa-may-we-want-a-red-white-and-blue-brexit

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That's what we will get - someone should have mentioned to her the colours of the French Tricolore...

 

[lemonjelly]

Or the dutch flag...

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Or Croatia, or Serbia, or Slovakia, or Slovenia, or Luxembourg, or Iceland, or Norway.

It's not an uncommon combination.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Indeed. So they have rather more red white and blue than we do.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Although theirs is watered down by a lot of rogue colours from other nations whereas we only have a bit of green from your fatherland to muddy the waters.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Which of course doesn't feature on the good old union jack, for reasons better known to the designers back in the day!

Bringing it back to an element of seriousness, if screaming about how Brexit is going to look after the colours in some jingoistic tub-thumping fashion is the best they can do, then we really are fucked. Like wearing a union jack waistcoat to a poker tournament still doesn't get around the fact you are holding a 2 and a 6.

 

[lemonjelly]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43199979

More brain drain.

 

[visage]

Which of course doesn't feature on the good old union jack, for reasons better known to the designers back in the day!

Bringing it back to an element of seriousness, if screaming about how Brexit is going to look after the colours in some jingoistic tub-thumping fashion is the best they can do, then we really are fucked. Like wearing a union jack waistcoat to a poker tournament still doesn't get around the fact you are holding a 2 and a 6.

 

[Kenny]

All his mates turned up for the Party I see

 

[machin05]

He's drinking your favourite brewery too Kenny....

 

[Kenny]

Fucks sake.

Brewery Tour cancelled. They are dead to me now...

 

[machin05]

First they sell out to AB-InBev, and now this.... Unforgivable.

 

[lemonjelly]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/john-major-brexit-speech-second-referendum-commons-vote-eu-theresa-may-conservative-a8232791.html
Major really goes for May in this speech:

“Many electors know they were misled,” he said. “Many more are beginning to realise it. So, the electorate has every right to reconsider their decision.”

He later added: “By 2021, after the likely two-year transition, it will be five years since the 2016 referendum. The electorate will have changed. Some voters will have left us. Many new voters will be enfranchised. Others may have changed their mind.

“No-one can truly know what “the will of the people” may then be. So, let Parliament decide. Or put the issue back to the people.”

 

[Tony Towner]

Not funny, just sad

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/03/01/davis-failure-is-now-apparently-his-best-weapon

 

[lemonjelly]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43336351

The four most recent readings - taken by BMG Research and Survation between November and January - have, on average, once the 8% who said "don't know" are left to one side, put Remain on 52% and Leave on 48%.

In contrast, four such polls undertaken towards the end of 2016 still put Leave narrowly ahead, by 51% to 49%.

Similarly, four recent polls - conducted by ICM and ComRes between December and March - that looked at how people might vote in a second referendum, albeit without posing the exact question that was on the ballot paper, have also on average put Remain slightly ahead - by 51% to 49%.

More regular readings of how voters now view Brexit have been provided by a question that YouGov have put to their respondents since shortly after the referendum.

This reads, "In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?"

There is a clear, if hardly dramatic trend.