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Thankfully we make it really attractive and easy for people to decide to train to be a nurse.

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Boozad said:
Don't let facts get in the way of an anti-EU, anti-immigration rant.
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I am not anti immigration. I pretty much have all ways said what now is in the Labour manifesto. I am against swampping the labour market with low skilled and low wage earners. I have never been against bringing skilled people to the UK. I also have always advocated what is now in the Labour party manifesto, training more people in the skills that we are short of.y
 
thehistorymakers said:
I am not anti immigration. I pretty much have all ways said what now is in the Labour manifesto. I am against swampping the labour market with low skilled and low wage earners. I have never been against bringing skilled people to the UK. I also have always advocated what is now in the Labour party manifesto, training more people in the skills that we are short of.y
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thehistorymakers said:
The fact is I said waiting lists. Not urgent or none urgent. I can only be asked to demonstrate what I say, not what other people say.
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Don't know why I bother but here we go...

As you quoted me directly I would like to ask you two things, both based on the fact that both of your replies were aimed at immigration and not the EU. Please answer them.

1: If the EU bothers you that much, why do you live in it as opposed to the UK which you like to make out you're so passionate about?

2: Why does immigration in the UK (and its apparently obvious detrimental effects) bother you so much when you don't even live here?

Short, concise answers will do, both of them directly addressing the questions asked.
 
Boozad said:
How did they make the waiting times go down? By getting rid of all the immigrants?

Yes or no will suffice.
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They got rid of all the 37 year old females with mental health issues. Obvs.
 
Boozad said:
Don't know why I bother but here we go...

As you quoted me directly I would like to ask you two things, both based on the fact that both of your replies were aimed at immigration and not the EU. Please answer them.

1: If the EU bothers you that much, why do you live in it as opposed to the UK which you like to make out you're so passionate about?

2: Why does immigration in the UK (and its apparently obvious detrimental effects) bother you so much when you don't even live here?

Short, concise answers will do, both of them directly addressing the questions asked.
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Answers I have given many times, but supposing that you really don't know the answers, here goes.


1, The UK still is in the EU. I don't like to make out anything. I write what I believe, there is a difference.
I have lived in Spain for about 27 years, My wife and children were born here, apart from 2 of them that we adopt. My Father and mother in-law are both in their 90,s and both are very ill, they need full time care, which is what my wife dedicates her life to now. She also has a sister with spinabifida andmy wife also looks after her, goes to her house cleans, cooks and washes her, amongst many other things. So the option is not available to us, even if we did want to come back.

2, I am British and have both business and family in the UK. Immigration bothers 70℅ of British people.
If any government would spend enough money on infrastructure, like the health service, education,. etc,. I wouldn't have a problem. As I have explained many times on here I don't have a problem with immigrants. I have a problem with peoples living standards falling,. because of the extra pressure put on our infrastructure from having more people,. with not enough investment. That I believe is the real reason why people voted Brexiters, I don't believe that British people are generally a racist country. I do believe that the poorest and indeed the middle classes have seen a big change to their living standards. I don,t trust governments to invest in the infrastructure needed. I also believe that the low paid unskilled newcomers are played off against the poorest in society and the poor become poorer. As I have said many times before, I don't blame immigrants for that, but the rich who profit both from cheaper labour but also from rents going up because of increased pressure on the housing market.
I have said before, that I don't blame the immigrants from wanting to go there, to find work to feed their families. I have never been anti immigrant an always have been anti exploitation, which is both happening for the poorest on zero hour contracts and also exploitation against cheap foreign labour. I have always said that the government attitude to refugees is a shame on our nation. We have a duty to do our fair share in helping people escape from conflicts,. our response has been pathetic.
 
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