REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Penk Wolf]

I can't remember when you have said anything interesting about politics. So I have never had to ignore your posts.

I assume you realise that you were talking to no one then?

 

[thehistorymakers]

I assume you realise that you were talking to no one then?

Yes, often do. Ignorance is a bad quality. If I had someone on ignore, I would feel no need to tell the forum. Not unless I felt a need to be in the clique which I don't.

 

[thehistorymakers]

I have. I wrote that the eu should never have allowed countries to join the euro without them demonstrating their economies can live within the constraints that management of that currency would demand. I said it was a mistake, but let's be clear - it was also a choice by those countries democratically elected governments who are responsible for their respective country's economies. so again, do not $#@!ING LIE and say this is my idea of the EU. it isn't.

we went through this about Greece - if you recall, as I do, you complained about the eu reforms being imposed in Greece and when it was pointed out that it was Greece that managed its economy and created huge deficits and failed to reform - eg paying some pensions at age 45 - you conceded that Greece did indeed need to reform. you think that's ever going to happen if a creditor doesn't force them to or do you think they should be allowed to continue to pay pensions to 45 year olds whilst the "workers" across the rest of Europe pay them to?

Greece voted in its government, its government chooses to join the EU, its government mis-manages the economy, its government chooses to hire a US merchant bank to hide liabilities and misrepresent its financial returns to the EU. It falsely maintains its credit rating in order to borrow more money that it cannot pay back. it's "democracy" that voted in these crooks wasn't it, not the eu. and your solution is what? to carry on regardless whilst the rest of us fund them? oh but it isn't is it, because you've already said, let's get out of Europe before those economies crash so we don't have to help bail them out. then you accuse everyone else of not caring about the poor, when really other than paying lip service to them, your solution seems to be to run away from them as fast as you can?

You are completely wrong about my opinions about Greece. Is that a lie,. Or a mistake?

 

[nimrod]

There is a huge difference between a poster who has to answer continuously, to 6 or more poster and confuses a post made by another poster . That isn't a lie, it is a mistake. You have made up things, that I am meant to say, that is a lie. Don't worry about it though, I am not going to start silly school kid name calling.

you're making your "mistakes" left right and centre - at what point are you going to acknowledge it's a problem that's become serial. no "school kid name calling" from me, just telling it as it is.

 

[nimrod]

You are completely wrong about my opinions about Greece. Is that a lie,. Or a mistake?

it's just what you've said before, so you tell me. which bit were you lying about?

 

[thehistorymakers]

it's just what you've said before, so you tell me. which bit were you lying about?

You are mistaken what I said. Is that a mistake or a lie?

 

[Penk Wolf]

You are mistaken what I said. Is that a mistake or a lie?

FFS, the thread was boring enough with all the 'Country is doomed' but you're making it 100 times worse.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

You are mistaken what I said. Is that a mistake or a lie?

He isn't.

 

[thehistorymakers]

FFS, the thread was boring enough with all the 'Country is doomed' but you're making it 100 times worse.

Not the person who buts in and starts calling me a liar?
OK, I take note, but is pointless insults that ruin threads.

 

[thehistorymakers]

He isn't.

He was!

What I said about Greece, taken from the Greek thread. ,........... I don't tell lies and I don't insult.

I have always thought that Syriza and Podemos were very good at telling the man in the street what the problems were, in their respective countries, but had no solutions to solve the problems.
I dislike the EU and everything it stands for. Anticultural, enslaving of the working classes in Europe and taking away many of the rights that workers had fought for, over many years. The EU love telling countries in the EU that they must cut their pensions, they need to be more productive, they must retire at a later age ect. The EU is driven by big banks and the stock markets, globalisation out of control.
I take my hat of to Syriza. I never thought I would say that, but they have shown that they have bollocks. I think the Greek people will vote to stay in the EU, out of fear. At least they have shown, that it's citizens can have a say on their future. Of course the banks and big business will win in the end, but the founding country of democracy, can stand proud, that it stood up to EU bullying.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Well I say you didn't and I am going to tell you what you were thinking when typing.

Familiar?

 

[thehistorymakers]

Well I say you didn't and I am going to tell you what you were thinking when typing.

Familiar?

I just know I don't lie and I don't insult on the internet.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Not the person who buts in and starts calling me a liar?
OK, I take note, but is pointless insults that ruin threads.

There hasn't been an insult. There really hasn't.

One poster is ruining this thread. Buy a mirror.

 

[thehistorymakers]

There hasn't been an insult. There really hasn't.

One poster is ruining this thread. Buy a mirror.

Calling someone a liar, when you weren't even talking to him?

Think the doctors waiting times, was difficult to accept. I put the evidence up, so get called a liar from someone who invents things. No need for insults.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Mainly because none of us, who actually live here, have any relationship with the stat.

The other point is "NON URGENT" is making your stat. That isn't "doctor I am ill" stuff.

So your stat is bollocks and was correctly called out for it

 

[thehistorymakers]

If you had your own way, you would all be saying how stupid the UK is and how clever the EU all day. Talking the same crap that you have been spoon fed from the Guardian. You really really can't take any criticism of the EU. It is like a sect, that you have been made to leave. You have no thought system for accepting the massive continuos EU failures.That is indoctrination and pathetic. loads of things are wrong with the leave camp, May is a turd who has no mandate. I never voted for a Tory government. I voted to leave the EU.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Mainly because none of us, who actually live here, have any relationship with the stat.

The other point is "NON URGENT" is making your stat. That isn't "doctor I am ill" stuff.

So your stat is bollocks and was correctly called out for it

I never mentioned NONE URGENT. I originally said people have to wait so long to see a doc. When I was young I saw a doctor in one day if it was non urgent. The statistics demonstrated what I was saying and what most people were denying.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

YOUR STAT WAS NON-URGENT for goodness sake

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Most people are denying it because LIVING IN THE UK we don't recognise this issue. We can sort of see doctors pretty quickly.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I propose a new game.

We all try our best to refrain from responding to El Chumpo and anyone who buckles to his nonsensical ramblings has to make a £10 donation to a charity of their choice. Who's game? Either the forum gets cleansed of pages of mindless drivel or a lot of charities get a lot of money.