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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD


Been there and got the T-Shirt. Unfortunately even though they are nice people with the best intentions they can't make Indian companies pay the same labour rates as over here or turn on the lights in the factory so that we are on an even keel in terms of competitiveness.

I see that Dr Fox is on the home page. The guy who wants UK workers to give up their rights to half decent pay and terms and conditions so that we can compete with the rest of the world. Mind you I'm a fat bastard on a golf course so what would I know.
 
Been there and got the T-Shirt. Unfortunately even though they are nice people with the best intentions they can't make Indian companies pay the same labour rates as over here or turn on the lights in the factory so that we are on an even keel in terms of competitiveness.

I see that Dr Fox is on the home page. The guy who wants UK workers to give up their rights to half decent pay and terms and conditions so that we can compete with the rest of the world. Mind you I'm a fat bastard on a golf course so what would I know.

Take your point about Fox but new export markets/opportunities does not necessarily mean competing with sweatshops. As it stands outside investment in to this country is set to increase.
 
Take your point about Fox but new export markets/opportunities does not necessarily mean competing with sweatshops. As it stands outside investment in to this country is set to increase.

OK, can you give examples of where it will increase and who/ where to or broadly in terms of which markets you see this increase? It is OK to say it will increase but you kind of have to say where and how/ why.
 
OK, can you give examples of where it will increase and who/ where to or broadly in terms of which markets you see this increase? It is OK to say it will increase but you kind of have to say where and how/ why.


Exports of goods rose by £2.1bn to £26.8bn in October, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

This is the highest level since records began in 1997, and was boosted by strong goods exports to non-EU countries, which jumped to a record £14.4bn.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/12/09/record-uk-exports-drive-huge-narrowing-trade-deficit/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-gets-boost-confident-businesses-plan-invest/
 
Nowt directly to do with a brexit boom, more to do with a brexit inspired currency crash
 
56% of our exports go outside of the eu. Given we sell so much outside the eu, is it beyond he realms of possibility that we could sell more?

Don't these exports currently go outside the EU as a consequence of the EU having trade deals with these other countries though? To maintain the current level of exports outside the EU we will have to have in place trade deals with each of these countries (which we can't currently negotiate). Is it beyond the realms of possibility that we could sell less?
 
Not really. The eu doesn't have free trade deals with most of the major economies. Not with China, India, Australia or brazil, the gulf states, Japan or the United States.

So - actually, the answer is no.
 
Not really. The eu doesn't have free trade deals with most of the major economies. Not with China, India, Australia or brazil, the gulf states, Japan or the United States.

So - actually, the answer is no.

He didn't say free trade deals, he said the EU has trade deals in place with these countries. We are part of the EU so we are able to trade with them through that deal. We currently can't negotiate with these countries, and when we leave we will have to negotiate our own deal
 
Man, I'd hate to be you lot, where all news is bad news and everything in the world is negative.

Personally, my glass is half full. We don't yet know how it's all going to turn out, there are positives and negatives, risks, opportunities and issues. Personally, I can't influence any of the negotiations so I'm not going to spend the next couple of years being negative but I'll take an interest in what's happening.

At the moment it's all talk and positioning from both sides, so I don't take too much notice of what's said by politicians on either side, but I'd hope something sensible will be agreed, with both sides calming down a bit and allowing a bit of give. I think it will - the last thing either party wants is an enemy of the other, so it's in their interests to be halfway reasonable.

In the meantime, the warnings of economic collapse the week after the vote have been proven wrong. Summer is on the way, and life is looking good. I hope you're all having as good a week as I am :)
I just wish I had a glass...
 
Their EU reporting is less accurate than their weather reporting.
 
Their EU reporting is less accurate than their weather reporting.

I thought their accuracy was on a par with the rest of the British media, just supporting a different view.

There is a lot of posturing going on at the moment both by the EU and UK pundits. Anyone would think that a negotiation was about to commence. :)

We are likely to experience this sort of thing for at least the next 2 years, don't you think?
 
If you think the EU will pay Britain money as part of Brexit then I would invite you to look at the response of its leaders when it was put to them...
 
Quite clear - proud to be in the UK but really important that there is free trade between UK and EU. Can't guarantee they will be in UK long-term.

Also, engaging with government about what they need to stay in UK. Guessing that will be free trade, which we won't have.
 
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