REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[So Long Architect]

Even more ridiculous when you consider that the blue passport was only in existence for 68 years. It's not like Queen Elizabeth I personally issued one to Walter Raleigh before he sailed off on his travels. If you're under 29 - so that's a good proportion of the population - you've never held a blue passport.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm 36 next week and my first passport wasn't blue (didn't have one until I was about 14).

 

[machin05]

It's almost as if it's the under 40s who don't give a shit about this faux-patriotic bile....

 

[darlowolf64]

I'm over 40 and I don't give a shit either! :icon_lol:

 

[leedswolf]

Same here darlo.

 

[leedswolf]

I wonder what colour our ration books will be?

 

[So Long Architect]

The colour of pure perfect hatred.

 

[leedswolf]

Tory blue then.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

My passport expires this summer, so when I renew I get another EU one. If I am then forced to change to fucking blue in two years and they try and charge me for the privilege I am unlikely to be amused.

 

[Johnny75]

My passport expires this summer, so when I renew I get another EU one. If I am then forced to change to $#@!ing blue in two years and they try and charge me for the privilege I am unlikely to be amused.

I can't imagine we will be forcing anybody to change passports until they expire as these chip reading machines can already read the perfectly acceptable EU passports.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Even more ridiculous when you consider that the blue passport was only in existence for 68 years. It's not like Queen Elizabeth I personally issued one to Walter Raleigh before he sailed off on his travels. If you're under 29 - so that's a good proportion of the population - you've never held a blue passport.

I'm 36 next week and my first passport wasn't blue (didn't have one until I was about 14).

I'm over 40 and I don't give a shit either! :icon_lol:

Same here darlo.

Well I'm older than any of you & couldn't care less what colour they are - apart from drawing a line at the lime green of our current second strip :icon_smile:

 

[lemonjelly]

MP's point out the government is making unsubstantiated claims etc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39482530

The report said: "The government has talked about walking away from a bad deal, but has not yet explained what terms would be demonstrably worse for the UK than 'no deal'."
It called for a "thorough assessment of the economic, legal and other implications" to be published, along with evidence of the steps "being taken to mitigate what would be the damaging effect of such an outcome".

And tellingly:

The MPs also said it said it was "essential" for Parliament to get a vote on whether to proceed if no deal was reached.
Labour MP Hilary Benn, who chairs the committee, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "If the government is going to make this assertion that no deal would be better than a bad deal, I think everyone would expect the government to have done some assessment."
He pointed out that farming tariffs, financial services and emergency health care in Europe were all issues that would all "fall by the wayside" with no deal.
"They should make an assessment. Because in the absence of the government explaining what mitigating measures it would take to deal with that outcome, to say that no deal is better than a bad deal is unsubstantiated," said Mr Benn.
He added there is a "balance to be struck" and "a difference between doing the work behind the scenes and making it public".

Of course they should suck it up, obviously. I mean, to have the temerity to suggest we should have contingency plans, as well as assessing risks...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

An excellent Donald Trump style approach of rejecting a comprehensive, fully researched report because you don't like what it says.

 

[leedswolf]

FFS

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/...e-uk-be-prepared-to-go-to-war-over-gibraltar/

 

[Parkins left foot]

FFS

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/...e-uk-be-prepared-to-go-to-war-over-gibraltar/

Can't understand how 11% of the votes on that were to go to war over it!!!

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Can't understand how 11% of the votes on that were to go to war over it!!!

It was 50/50 last night. Seems like sane people have got involved in voting.

 

[So Long Architect]

War with Spain would at least allow THM to put his patriotism to good use.

 

[thehistorymakers]

War with Spain would at least allow THM to put his patriotism to good use.

Hahhahhah

 

[Papper]

Oh, and we're soon to have a yawning democratic deficit unrivalled anywhere in Western Europe when we allow the Government to pass widespread amendments to sovereign law with literally no scrutiny as part of their Repeal Bill. Puts us on a par with the likes of Belarus and Kazakhstan in that sense.

Taking back control.

I understand this as merely an exercise in standardisation with the emphasis that future EU directives not being binding on us. Surely any changes in legislation have to be scrutinised.? i.e. changes to workers rights etc. Any future trade deals have be built on the foundation already put in place and it could take five or ten years to execute any plan. What works for us and what don't then become the basis of negotiation and are eventually put to the electorate. I'm not sure anything can be torn up and thrown away.

 

[Trips]

I understand this as merely an exercise in standardisation with the emphasis that future EU directives not being binding on us. Surely any changes in legislation have to be scrutinised.? i.e. changes to workers rights etc. Any future trade deals have be built on the foundation already put in place and it could take five or ten years to execute any plan. What works for us and what don't then become the basis of negotiation and are eventually put to the electorate. I'm not sure anything can be torn up and thrown away.

Wrong, it's in the repeal bill.

The government will be able to "correct the statute book where necessary" - without the need for scrutiny