REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Paddingtonwolf]

I keep seeing this from the Brexiters "well - what would YOU do about immigration then.....?"

Me - well, pretty much precisely nothing. Unlike the little Englanders I don't think it is a problem AT ALL.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

If we're so worried about increased numbers putting strain on services why don't we ban procreation as well as immigration?

 

[leedswolf]

If we move to SIPs then I've a couple of leftover bricks that could provide a quick and simple solution.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If we're so worried about increased numbers putting strain on services why don't we ban procreation as well as immigration?

We could go down the chinese route - limit the number per family and turn a blind eye when the baby girls get drowned at birth...

 

[Deleted Cyber]

You really do have a bee in your bonnet about migrants don't you?

No not at all. Given however it seems to be the hottest topic on brexit its appropriate to assume that something will happen to address the concerns .

Paddington. There is no longer an option to do nothing. The status quo cannot and wont stay the same

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Yes there bloody is.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Yes there bloody is.

Oh no there isn't....... We can do this all day lol!

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He's behind you...

(Sadly when people said this about a frogman with a mallet to Farage it was but a joke)


The ONLY reason that leaving it alone seems to not be an option is because a load of people have stirred the racist immigration fires. Which is a disgrace.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Saville at left back. What's that all about?

 

[leedswolf]

No not at all

Well, I feel the opposite.

 

[Trips]

No not at all. Given however it seems to be the hottest topic on brexit its appropriate to assume that something will happen to address the concerns .

Paddington. There is no longer an option to do nothing. The status quo cannot and wont stay the same

I honestly don't think there will be a massive difference with immigration numbers. We still have more non-EU immigration than from within the EU, and we will still need labour from other countries. People expecting a massive drop in immigration are going to be disappointed post-Brexit I feel.

 

[Papper]

But then those extra 4 add another half a cake, but the government decide to spend it on biscuits instead....

They might be better served reducing the £60Billion they spend a yard on Interest servicing the national debt.

 

[Papper]

I honestly don't think there will be a massive difference with immigration numbers. We still have more non-EU immigration than from within the EU, and we will still need labour from other countries. People expecting a massive drop in immigration are going to be disappointed post-Brexit I feel.

If encouraging cheap labour to do low skilled work is good for this country (economically) and we can supply the demand for public services then get more over. After all the unemployed cannot be forced to work so there is a shortfall in cheap labour (and there is a shift to a low skilled work force). What makes it a questionable decision is that it hasn't actually done what it was supposed to. Apparently successive governments hadn't planned for the rise in population - and nobody can answer what they should have done differently.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

They might be better served reducing the £60Billion they spend a yard on Interest servicing the national debt.

Any source for the £60bn/year you keep quoting? Most estimates have it anywhere between £34bn and £43bn.

 

[Papper]

I keep seeing this from the Brexiters "well - what would YOU do about immigration then.....?"

Me - well, pretty much precisely nothing. Unlike the little Englanders I don't think it is a problem AT ALL.

It doesn't actually affect you that's why.

 

[Papper]

Any source for the £60bn/year you keep quoting? Most estimates have it anywhere between £34bn and £43bn.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gen...he-national-debt-monster-in-three-charts.html

 

[Trips]

So they don't spend £60bn a year on servicing the debt then

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

So they're projections for 2020, not what we actually pay right now.

 

[Papper]

So they're projections for 2020, not what we actually pay right now.

Please accept my apologies for being three years out. Bottom line is we are spending an insane amount of taxpayers money servicing a national debt that increases minute by minute. Am I wrong to be concerned?

"For context, that £60 billion figure in 2019/20 is more than the Government will be spending on schools or the Armed Forces."

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Depends. Do you understand that governments fundamentally run at a deficit unless they're run on extremely strange lines that essentially don't work?

The key is to make that borrowing produce actual tangible results, whether it be boosting the economy so we increase GDP and aid our ability to pay it down if necessary, or by investing in state infrastructure to improve people's lives. If you're borrowing to fund a nuclear plant which might not even work and where the profits go to non-UK companies, or building a completely pointless new train line that benefits no-one and is a mere vanity project because the headline top speed looks flashy, that's not so good.

The concept that you run an economy like a household or a corner shop is possibly the biggest UK political fallacy in the last 40 years. Trite phrases like "fixing the roof while the sun's shining" are palpable nonsense.

None of this has anything to do with immigration.