REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[thehistorymakers]

And in two short posts you have perfectly demonstrated that Out voters didn't have a clue what they were letting themselves, and the rest of us, in for!

Sorry but you can be in a single market if the other countries allow it, without allowing those countries to dictate on sovereignty, border controls ect. The point is, the EU won't let us "have our cake and eat it". Therefore because we have voted to leave the EU and regain sovereignty, and they have said they won't accept that, we will have to make different arrangements. As you said, we have voted to leave the EU, which is to control our sovereignty, well the EU won't allow this, if we want to remain in the single market.
So we have the intent to stay in the single market, but the EU won't allow this and for us to regain our sovereignty. So as we have voted leave and they won't accept us keeping our sovereignty, we will have to leave and do business on different terms, but out of the single market.

You make the common mistake, by making out someone who voted differently to you, doesn't know what they are talking about. When it was you who read both posts and came to the wrong assumption.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Nowt to do with me, may I point you in the direction of a more northern Wolf.

Yes, I know Johnny!

 

[FrankMunro-371]

This thread's better than a Jack Kerouac novel.

But it takes attention away from my excellent joke thread.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Overwhelmingly the legacy of the Tories and yet you want to give them more power.

I am saying that the EU doesn't and hasn't protected workers rights all over the EU. Austerity is being paid for by the poor and is dictated from the EU.
I hate what this government does, but we have elections to get rid of them.

 

[thehistorymakers]

But it takes attention away from my excellent joke thread.

Well I have to give my kids a bit of time now, so you can have them back now, Frank.

 

[Tony Towner]

No, I'm questioning your fairness and your impartiality. You are quite intelligent, but you are not thinking out of the box, which you are capable of. Which is the disappointing thing here.
There are posters that always follow other posters, who clearly don't think for themselves, who follow party guidelines, or newspapers editorial political indoctrination, which you don't normally do.
It would be nice for someone who voted remain, just to accept defeat, say that it was fair and say that politicians should respect that the majority of people have voted to leave the EU. To want the best for the UK and it's citizens , to live in a fair just and prosperous country outside the EU.

Could you be any more condescending with your "quite intelligent"comment? For the record I did exactly what your last paragraph said a week or so ago on here

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Sorry but you can be in a single market if the other countries allow it, without allowing those countries to dictate on sovereignty, border controls ect. The point is, the EU won't let us "have our cake and eat it". Therefore because we have voted to leave the EU and regain sovereignty, and they have said they won't accept that, we will have to make different arrangements. As you said, we have voted to leave the EU, which is to control our sovereignty, well the EU won't allow this, if we want to remain in the single market.
So we have the intent to stay in the single market, but the EU won't allow this and for us to regain our sovereignty. So as we have voted leave and they won't accept us keeping our sovereignty, we will have to leave and do business on different terms, but out of the single market.

You make the common mistake, by making out someone who voted differently to you, doesn't know what they are talking about. When it was you who read both posts and came to the wrong assumption.

At the time of the vote the terms of membership of the Single Market were known, yet Boris was assuring anyone who would listen we would remain part of it. Some Out voters may have realised this wasn't possible but a lot didn't.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The "I'm sure they will let us stay in that market" spiel is looking like what it is now - a barefaced lie. So no, leave is absolutely NOT the leave that the country voted for.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...arage-anna-soubry_uk_582ce0a0e4b09025ba310fce

 

[thehistorymakers]

Could you be any more condescending with your "quite intelligent"comment? For the record I did exactly what your last paragraph said a week or so ago on here

There seems to be quite a lot of condescending comments on here, I try not to let them get to me.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Well I have to give my kids a bit of time now, so you can have them back now, Frank.

Have you forgotten about your children....!!

 

[thehistorymakers]

Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...arage-anna-soubry_uk_582ce0a0e4b09025ba310fce

Could you balance that post by putting all the times leavers said how the economy was going to go to pieces after the referendum, if we voted leave. Because I could put thousands of links up too.

 

[thehistorymakers]

There seems to be quite a lot of condescending comments on here, I try not to let them get to me.

Hhaahahahh

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Hang on. Who says the economy WON'T go to pieces yet? Still rather up for grabs.

Unlike the Single Market your lot of shysters promised.

 

[thehistorymakers]

Hang on. Who says the economy WON'T go to pieces yet? Still rather up for grabs.

Unlike the Single Market your lot of shysters promised.

It certainly hasn't employed in the way many remainers including politicians said it would.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Wait until 50 is enacted. Then it WILL fucking bomb.

 

[Johnny75]

It certainly hasn't employed in the way many remainers including politicians said it would.

You are correct it hasn't, now that's out of the way when will the NHS be getting its money and why are we coming out of the single market. Both promises from the Leave camp I do believe....

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Could you balance that post by putting all the times leavers said how the economy was going to go to pieces after the referendum, if we voted leave. Because I could put thousands of links up too.

We are discussing a specific claim you have been making - there would be no benefit in pointing out claims made by the remain side (i assume you mean) that have nothing to do with this.

It seems pretty clear that the leave campaign were pushing staying in the single market before the referendum.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

As I said antagonising 16m people isn't going to get you any help, nor is calling things 'the will of the people' and then telling people they don't count. Telling people to basically '$#@! off' isn't going to get anything done and I hope Article 50 is clogged up in parliament for a very long time to teach 'the winners' a lesson.

Well it may happen. On top of that I hope Scotland votes to leave the UK second time around. Fucking idiots don't know a good thing when they see it if they vote for independence. Financially its a no brainer. Good luck on your own guys! Sick of paying taxes to support you if you are that ungrateful.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Depends who owns the oil and gas fields at that point I guess. Plus Faslane.