REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[Stan Hullis]

Amen to that.

It's incredibly sad.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Never said you were but he vast majority of those who did are, a can't believe you've had you're head in the sand for the past few months.

That's a huge, arrogant and out of order assumption IMO.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Yes, it is sad. Gut-wrenching from my personal viewpoint. I am really feeling low about the outcome.

However, I say again, WHY is not a relevant question here.

HOW is the only thing that matters. HOW are we going to implement this in a way that works and gives a reasonably secure long-term future. That is very important. A lot of pensions are taking a mauling this morning. Somehow those values need to get back up to acceptable levels or pension fund holes are going to send companies to the wall.

We are where we are. We now have to find some way to make it work.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That's a huge, arrogant and out of order assumption IMO.

It is. Far better to say that a percentage of that vote will have been influenced in that way, but the total is incalculable, and tarring with the same brush everyone who voted Leave is hardly conducive to the building of a reconciliation that now has to happen for the sake of the future of this country.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Yes, it is sad. Gut-wrenching from my personal viewpoint. I am really feeling low about the outcome.

However, I say again, WHY is not a relevant question here.

HOW is the only thing that matters. HOW are we going to implement this in a way that works and gives a reasonably secure long-term future. That is very important. A lot of pensions are taking a mauling this morning. Somehow those values need to get back up to acceptable levels or pension fund holes are going to send companies to the wall.

We are where we are. We now have to find some way to make it work.

Excellent stuff.
They took a battering, but they've bounced back 50% already.
The short term turmoil is inevitable, and like you I'm not only interested in how

 

[Jolemai]

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[North West Wanderer]

It is. Far better to say that a percentage of that vote will have been influenced in that way, but the total is incalculable, and tarring with the same brush everyone who voted Leave is hardly conducive to the building of a reconciliation that now has to happen for the sake of the future of this country.

Absolutely. I'm 35, I have my reasons. No bigotry involved.

Similarly if remain had have won, I wouldn't be throwing around such labels.

 

[ROVERT47]

That's a huge, arrogant and out of order assumption IMO.

Sorry you feel that way but I've been in the supermarket queues, watched the news bulletins, I was also in A&E at Newcross for quite a while recently and heard if for myself.

 

[nimrod]

Yes, it is sad. Gut-wrenching from my personal viewpoint. I am really feeling low about the outcome.

However, I say again, WHY is not a relevant question here.

HOW is the only thing that matters. HOW are we going to implement this in a way that works and gives a reasonably secure long-term future. That is very important. A lot of pensions are taking a mauling this morning. Somehow those values need to get back up to acceptable levels or pension fund holes are going to send companies to the wall.

We are where we are. We now have to find some way to make it work.

that's right. after we've managed the "transition of power from one etonian to the next" [i nicked that from twitter] it's important that we suck up to the City and big business enough to get pension levels back up.

 

[Langers]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096

Scotland voted to remain, you utter spunktrumpet.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Sorry you feel that way but I've been in the supermarket queues, watched the news bulletins, I was also in A&E at Newcross for quite a while recently and heard if for myself.

From all 16m? Christ.

 

[ROVERT47]

From all 16m? Christ.

No, I was particularly referring to the over 55's

 

[Johnny75]

Sorry you feel that way but I've been in the supermarket queues, watched the news bulletins, I was also in A&E at Newcross for quite a while recently and heard if for myself.

There's definitely an element who voted Leave like that. I have family members and people I know who are this way and they have been unashamed in that view. But it would be wrong to assume that everybody voting leave has done it for thise reasons.

 

[North West Wanderer]

No, I was particularly referring to the over 55's

You've spoken to a dozen maybe.

Not fair and not right to label all with that.

 

[North West Wanderer]

There's definitely an element who voted Leave like that. I have family members and people I know who are this way and they have been unashamed in that view. But it would be wrong to assume that everybody voting leave has done it for thise reasons.

Oh absolutely. I daresay they expect them foreigners to be deported today such is their ignorance!

 

[ROVERT47]

There's definitely an element who voted Leave like that. I have family members and people I know who are this way and they have been unashamed in that view. But it would be wrong to assume that everybody voting leave has done it for thise reasons.

I'm not saying that, I'm referring to a specific age group, while I agree there are always exceptions to the rule, by and large, everyone in mr age group has cited immigration as their reason for voting to leave.

 

[Tredman]

There has definitely been an increase in anti-minority and immigrant feeling during the referendum; my wife is an immigrant and a postie - she has been subject to some pretty nasty comments over the past few weeks. Its sad and not a country I recognise, I hope we can pull it back into a good forward looking place to live

 

[ROVERT47]

You've spoken to a dozen maybe.

Not fair and not right to label all with that.

I'm moving on, what's done is done I've given my opinion and I'll leave it at that.

 

[Parkins left foot]

No, I was particularly referring to the over 55's

There's definitely an element who voted Leave like that. I have family members and people I know who are this way and they have been unashamed in that view. But it would be wrong to assume that everybody voting leave has done it for thise reasons.

You've spoken to a dozen maybe.

Not fair and not right to label all with that.

Generalisations are usually dangerous - there will have been some in that age bracket voting out for that reason & many who did not

Equally I'm am sure that a proportion of younger voters went out for the same reason - we might as well tar all out voters with the same brush - though that doesn't make it true.

However, as said by others (Paddy etc.) what is important now is how we deal with this moving forward - the vote has happened & railing against the result will not change it.

 

[darlowolf64]

that's right. after we've managed the "transition of power from one etonian to the next" [i nicked that from twitter] it's important that we suck up to the City and big business enough to get pension levels back up.

No. It is about the £ regaining its strength against the other currencies, the markets recovering from their unexpected "shock" and the shares of British companies climbing back up after the mini fall. All this and a recovering of Pension funds is a must for the UK