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Or people that are educated and experienced in macro Economics and business, and don't have a vested interest in scaremongering.
Really? I thought we were fed up of listening to experts.
 
Hahahahahahahahaha

Did you just try and imply that UKIP don't have a vested interest in scaremongering???

What about the $#@!ing poster that basically said immigrants are all a danger.

No.

I never mentioned or inferred Ukip.
 
In the end, we won't sign up to free movement of people in Europe, but will allow people to come here with work visas, with the skills we need. We won't be allowed to be a a member of the single market, because of this. We will come to trade agreements with Europe, that suits us both.
 
The last sentence is quite a jump, considering Europe hold all the cards on that negotiation.

We want a free trade agreement.

No.

Well you can't have one with us either if you don't play ball.

Fine, we will just set your import duties into our economic area at a level which means we are alright thank you very much.

Well, we'll do the same to you, you rotters.

Fine by us.

Britain needs trade with Europe rather more than vice versa.
 
The last sentence is quite a jump, considering Europe hold all the cards on that negotiation.

We want a free trade agreement.

No.

Well you can't have one with us either if you don't play ball.

Fine, we will just set your import duties into our economic area at a level which means we are alright thank you very much.

Well, we'll do the same to you, you rotters.

Fine by us.

Britain needs trade with Europe rather more than vice versa.

It won't happen like that, Paddy. It will be in both parties interests, to sort things out amicably.
 
It just isn't, is it? We have a government that has told the electorate it will play hard ball. So unless the EU go into full retreat mode and back down on freedom of movement it is a clash that is fairly impossible to resolve, and there will be much political gain to be made within the EU for fighting fire with fire and not agreeing to ANY trade deal.
 
It won't happen like that, Paddy. It will be in both parties interests, to sort things out amicably.

A trading block of 750 million people negotiating with a trading block of 70 million.

Who do you think holds the advantage at that table?
 
The EU will play 'hard ball' a lot harder than we're able to. This deal is vital for them as a message to all other members that says "leave at your fucking peril".
 
Yeah, but we'll march in with the Union Jack, remind them of Waterloo and Trafalgar and they'll learn to know their place and just crumble, right?
 
They'd be mad to not want to trade with us. We're Great Britain ffs. MAd.
 
Not to mention the fact that individual countries have their own political constituencies to play to. "Being nice to Britain" is hardly a great campaign slogan. Anecodotally - I've spent quite a lot of time in European countries recently and from speaking to people, the overwhelming sense I get is one of profound annoyance and disappointment with us. And those are people who are generally well-disposed towards us. "Let's give Britain a kick in the nuts" might be quite the vote winner in a few places.
 
BUT THEY WANT TO SELL US BMWs though.

It'll be fine. David Davis, Liam Fox and Boris Johnson are on the case.
 
We can trade with Australia, silly. Just need to increase it from around 2% of our yearly trade to about 80%, should be easy enough.
 
Hmmm

Trading with China.

Well that is a CERTAIN WINNER.

Apart from the fact that Chinese labour costs mean that any similar Chinese product will be cheaper in that market. Can't see Buy Blitish getting over that hurdle.

And then we have the real JUMBO in the corner. You make anything super original and amazing and try and market it in China and within 6 weeks it will be copied, de-branded, and available cheaper. IP laws just don't exist there to any legally challenging extent.
 
Not to mention the fact that individual countries have their own political constituencies to play to. "Being nice to Britain" is hardly a great campaign slogan. Anecodotally - I've spent quite a lot of time in European countries recently and from speaking to people, the overwhelming sense I get is one of profound annoyance and disappointment with us. And those are people who are generally well-disposed towards us. "Let's give Britain a kick in the nuts" might be quite the vote winner in a few places.

I've just come back from Germany and only echo those thoughts. Done with a smile but that veils the annoyance. I happened to agree with them.

On the trading bloc, I get the impression they are just as worried about it as we are and neither side see this ending well. As a side note the Germans I spoke to thought the EU as a project will end in the next 10 years in the fallout of Brexit and go back to the old EEC.
 
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