Premier League: Relegation Race

[GLASGOWOLF]

I was worried, after yesterday, i am not now..... dont think any ofthe bottom 3 are getting out if that, though if one did my money would be on Sheff Utd

 

[prawnking]

The issue is that is his job, the same as its Nunos responsibility to organise the team, It is Traores job to create chances for himself and others, that is all he has no other purpose in the game, on form he is easily the most electric player in the game, but 99% of the time he is easily the most frustrating, lacklustre inactive players in the ground (and Im including subs there, and they're sat down )

If it's Semedo’s primary job to defend then why are the weekly occasions when he gets skinned brushed over because he's a bit fast and likes to get forward (to little effect) too?

I'm not saying Traore shouldn't be held accountable for not excelling at his primary role, but who else in the team really is at the moment? The reason I end up defending him is because every other player seems to be given an excuse for having a below par season but him

 

[Paul]

I think because they look like they're trying, like they care, whereas Adama simply doesn't, You're saying he doesn't excel at his primary role, I'm saying he barely achieves his primary role. If Semedo didn't contribute to the game for sixty minutes per ninety I would be of the same opinion of him, If it is a coaching decision then I apologise but I cannot see a coach instructing a player to stand on the half way line with his hands on his hips?

 

[prawnking]

I think because they look like they're trying, like they care, whereas Adama simply doesn't

That's very subjective though, some players just have that vibe. Obviously if you're not producing the goods it gets highlighted more.

Equally a couple of games ago (can't remember if vs. Chelsea or Palace) he's the one racing half the pitch back into the box to support the only other defender in there when we're being countered.

Basically, he's like Doc. Some people don't like him and will never like him, and when he's gone his good games will be scarely mentioned and everyone will be jizzing it when he has a crap game or is benched for his new club.

 

[Kenny]

Equally a couple of games ago (can't remember if vs. Chelsea or Palace) he's the one racing half the pitch back into the box to support the only other defender in there when we're being countered.

Palace when Zaha hit the bar.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Palace when Zaha hit the bar.

Think commentary was that no one else could have got there that quickly, which is probably true.

He is frustrating though - has games which just pass him by when we know that at times he can be unstoppable.

If he did it all the time he wouldn't still be here though.

 

[Paul]

That's very subjective though, some players just have that vibe. Obviously if you're not producing the goods it gets highlighted more.

Equally a couple of games ago (can't remember if vs. Chelsea or Palace) he's the one racing half the pitch back into the box to support the only other defender in there when we're being countered.

Basically, he's like Doc. Some people don't like him and will never like him, and when he's gone his good games will be scarely mentioned and everyone will be jizzing it when he has a crap game or is benched for his new club.

I can assure you that it is not a case of liking him or not, nobody more than me wants him making defenders (someone else's preferably) looking stupid as he leaves them in his wake, but the man is purely frustrating, do you not think it telling that you pick a single highlight from the previous game as an endorsement of his positive attitude ?

 

[Wolvensam]

I agree he's been largely poor this season. At least he has those brilliant moments though (both goals in the Emirates game for instance), but they can easily be overlooked on here sometimes as I think some people are done with him, which I feel is a little harsh considering the amount of other players who've stunk the place out this season.

In terms of fairness and equivalence, Semedo’s bad moments lead to us conceding too (yesterday's goal was a total abomination that would be brought up for the next ten years if it was Doc) , yet you still see massive rose tinted glasses regarding his performances.

I will always give Traore credit. What he did in the second half yesterday is what he needs to do more often. He is clearly a big confidence player too and I'm sure not having a goal or assist yet is playing on his mind.

 

[Tony Towner]

I'd say the bottom three is pretty much set in stone after tonight

 

[redvictor]

I will always give Traore credit. What he did in the second half yesterday is what he needs to do more often. He is clearly a big confidence player too and I'm sure not having a goal or assist yet is playing on his mind.

He has a goal against Palace.

 

[jd1981]

Problem the bottom three have is if the 17th place team picks up a couple of wins it moves them out of site ie BHA.
It’ll take something special from any one of them, if we say the minimum is 34 points to survive Fulham need 20 points from 17, Albion need 22 from 16 and Sheff Utd need 23 from 16. Possible yes considering how drunk the league is but unlikely.
If we look at ourselves Fulham have 17 games to bridge a 12 point gap, Albion have 16 games to bridge 14 points and Sheff Utd have 16 games to bridge 15 points.

 

[Johnny75]

Problem the bottom three have is if the 17th place team picks up a couple of wins it moves them out of site ie BHA.
It’ll take something special from any one of them, if we say the minimum is 34 points to survive Fulham need 20 points from 17, Albion need 22 from 16 and Sheff Utd need 23 from 16. Possible yes considering how drunk the league is but unlikely.
If we look at ourselves Fulham have 17 games to bridge a 12 point gap, Albion have 16 games to bridge 14 points and Sheff Utd have 16 games to bridge 15 points.

That’s a minimum 6 wins from Fulham and drawing 2 more. They’ve only won 2 all season.

The other two have to win roughly half their games!

 

[jd1981]

That’s a minimum 6 wins from Fulham and drawing 2 more. They’ve only won 2 all season.

The other two have to win roughly half their games!

Pretty much relegation form would keep us up, Derby 07/08 form would only see us in trouble.

 

[darlowolf64]

Pretty much relegation form would keep us up, Derby 07/08 form would only see us in trouble.

Do you believe that this group of player we have are so poor that they could lose most of their games from now to the end of the season and drop into a relegation fight with teams that are currently 12 points behind and looking like derby 07/08 themselves?

 

[prawnking]

Even if one of the bottom three turn their form around miraculously, there's no way Brighton, Newcastle and Burnley all overtake us too.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Even if one of the bottom three turn their form around miraculously, there's no way Brighton, Newcastle and Burnley all overtake us too.

If we are so bad that one of the bottom three catches us Brighton, Newcastle and Burnley will be out of sight.

 

[Law's Bus]

Even if one of the bottom three turn their form around miraculously, there's no way Brighton, Newcastle and Burnley all overtake us too.

Well, there's less than half the season to go, and Albion and Sheff U need to more than double their current points tally simply to catch us if we lost every game between now and the end of the season; and Fulham need to double their total to catch us on our current total. On Fulham's average points per game so far, they'll end up with 25.3 points at the end of the season. We have 26 as it stands.

It's mathematically possible, of course, but it's more likely that the bottom three will continue roughly to follow their existing points gathering.

 

[prawnking]

If we are so bad that one of the bottom three catches us Brighton, Newcastle and Burnley will be out of sight.

I haven't thought and don't think they'll catch us, was pointing out there's three teams between us and them whatever they do

 

[northfield wolf]

After last nights set of Premier league results, its starting to look like the Championship where anybody can beat anybody. Who would have thought Brighton would have beaten Liverpool ?

 

[Trips]

Liverpool have struggled to break sides down at home for a few games now.

Weat Brom - 1-1
Man Utd - 0-0
Burnley- 0-1
Brighton- 0-1