Paul Lambert Leaves Wolves

[Langers]

Only the odd twitter moron on my timeline the rest, even the weapons grade wankhammer Danks is positive about this. It only seems the media types and media brown nosers like Feilden (another Spiers-esque spunkbubble) are the ones that are bent out of shape and miserable about this. Anybody would think they have an agenda.

I don't do facebook so can't comment on that.

I read Fielden's blog and TBF to him it made some sense - it wasn't massively condemning the club either way and I took his points on board. I didn't agree with the crux of it (certainly not retaining Stears - wtf??!) but it was a well reasoned piece. Though DW's blog was a far better read. But I've no problem reading the opposing side if it's coherent!

I agree with Kenny on the split as well, I just think that with such a massive decision, the ones in disagreement aren't being quiet about it (which is fair enough - this is a big change).

 

[Deleted Cyber]

The turgid tripe at home over the last two seasons, with the same failings ,the same personnel making the same errors should have been enough for any fan of the club to be whooping with delight that Lambert and the backroom team have been replaced. Add four or five quality signings in the right positions ( we all know which ones) led by a manager who realises that a strong home record is an essential platform for both success and keeping the fans onside, and we could and should be capable of challenging in this league. A team containing auto picks of the quality of Ikeme, Edwards,Doherty and Batth will never get us promoted. Fosun have given 12 months, had a look and decided that there is a better way and they want to try it. I welcome that and reserve my judgement overall until we know the full squad and staff for 2017 to 18. If on Sept 1st all the boxes mentioned above have been ticked I will be bloody ecstatic ! I will also be very optimistic for the future.

 

[big mean bunny]

British Football fans - 'Directors of football are stupid and don't work, let the manager pick the players he wants to bring in'

Clubs that use some form DOF or sports director who has a say in recruitment - Barca, both Madrid's, Bayern, Dortmund, Juve, both Milans, Lazio, Roma, Ajax, Porto, Monaco, PSG, 97% of all other European sides actually.

Current World class English managers - 0
Current World class English players - 0
English managers to win the premiership - 0
Average manager reign - 1.2 yrs (according to what I could find)


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I hate that Sky Sports are pushing Lambert leaving as partly because of our change in transfer policy, it's not new, he even got Marshall which was clearly someone he identified that we either agreed on talent identification wise or were happy to sign off on due to low cost.

 

[Langers]

The turgid tripe at home over the last two seasons, with the same failings ,the same personnel making the same errors should have been enough for any fan of the club to be whooping with delight that Lambert and the backroom team have been replaced. Add four or five quality signings in the right positions ( we all know which ones) led by a manager who realises that a strong home record is an essential platform for both success and keeping the fans onside, and we could and should be capable of challenging in this league. A team containing auto picks of the quality of Ikeme, Edwards,Doherty and Batth will never get us promoted. Fosun have given 12 months, had a look and decided that there is a better way and they want to try it. I welcome that and reserve my judgement overall until we know the full squad and staff for 2017 to 18. If on Sept 1st all the boxes mentioned above have been ticked I will be bloody ecstatic ! I will also be very optimistic for the future.

I don't think it's fair to blame Paul Lambert for the turgid football before he arrived though mate. And despite his limitations (and seemingly automatic selections of very average players which I agree with you on), he didn't have a great squad to work with. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favour of the change but we'll never know what Lambert might have done with a summer transfer window and Fosun cash behind him.

 

[Johnny75]

Fielden wrote a blog last night which was fairly anti-Fosun. He claimed that people who work in the industry might be more objective than the average Wolves fan. Based on him and Spiers I'd argue the opposite is true. How critical of the team can you be when you're tweeting first team players every 5 minutes? Spiers and Stearman are practically a couple.

Unfortunately I read that too. A load of condescending shite where it was more of a 'we know what we're talking about and you don't'. From first hand experience most clubs treat journalists with the contempt they deserve. Most journalists are absolutely clueless about football too, they just don't know how the game is actually played, no understanding of technique, form, function, tactics let alone training, building teams and data analysis. They just don't have the brains for it and people like Pat Murphy embarrass themselves every time they try and write an article. Fielden is no different.

Michael Calvin is the exception to this and you can see this in his books and articles the access he has to managers and clubs.

 

[Lord Knows]

I don't think it's fair to blame Paul Lambert for the turgid football before he arrived though mate. And despite his limitations (and seemingly automatic selections of very average players which I agree with you on), he didn't have a great squad to work with. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favour of the change but we'll never know what Lambert might have done with a summer transfer window and Fosun cash behind him.

I struggled with Lambert because there are enough footballers currently at the club to create a passing team and from that a system of play based around passing the ball.
Its what good clubs do.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Fielden wrote a blog last night which was fairly anti-Fosun. He claimed that people who work in the industry might be more objective than the average Wolves fan. Based on him and Spiers I'd argue the opposite is true. How critical of the team can you be when you're tweeting first team players every 5 minutes? Spiers and Stearman are practically a couple.

Absolutely. You only have to read any random player verdict piece by Britney to see that he isn't objective at all.

I don't know why he and the likes of Fielden get so in thrall to this lot anyway, they're just footballers and not very good ones at that. Given that they're also paper skinned and you know full well they can't take a bit of justified, reasoned stick anyway, you're immediately compromising your integrity. Keep your distance and write critically. If they do well then praise them. If they're rubbish then say so. I'd have thought that's what you're paid for.

I don't think there's any chance of me ever becoming close to players in that way :icon_lol: Principally because I don't like them very much. I'll make an exception for Silvio.

 

[Templeton Peck]

I read Fielden's blog and TBF to him it made some sense - it wasn't massively condemning the club either way and I took his points on board. I didn't agree with the crux of it (certainly not retaining Stears - wtf??!) but it was a well reasoned piece. Though DW's blog was a far better read. But I've no problem reading the opposing side if it's coherent!

I agree with Kenny on the split as well, I just think that with such a massive decision, the ones in disagreement aren't being quiet about it (which is fair enough - this is a big change).

A lot of it depends on whether you accept the central premise that Fosun suddenly told Lambert Mendes would be in charge of recruitment. If you accept the leaked story as gospel then you probably won't be very well disposed to Mendes and Co.

 

[Langers]

Unfortunately I read that too. A load of condescending shite where it was more of a 'we know what we're talking about and you don't'. From first hand experience most clubs treat journalists with the contempt they deserve. Most journalists are absolutely clueless about football too, they just don't know how the game is actually played, no understanding of technique, form, function, tactics let alone training, building teams and data analysis. They just don't have the brains for it and people like Pat Murphy embarrass themselves every time they try and write an article. Fielden is no different.

Michael Calvin is the exception to this and you can see this in his books and articles the access he has to managers and clubs.

I really didn't think Fielden's blog was THAT bad!!

See for yourselves, folks - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sptnpr

No arguments about Michael Calvin though - he's awesome. I need to grab his new book (No Hunger In Paradise) before I go on holiday in a few weeks. Nowhere Men and Living On The Volcano were absolutely brilliant.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Absolutely. You only have to read any random player verdict piece by Britney to see that he isn't objective at all.

I don't know why he and the likes of Fielden get so in thrall to this lot anyway, they're just footballers and not very good ones at that. Given that they're also paper skinned and you know full well they can't take a bit of justified, reasoned stick anyway, you're immediately compromising your integrity. Keep your distance and write critically. If they do well then praise them. If they're rubbish then say so. I'd have thought that's what you're paid for.

I don't think there's any chance of me ever becoming close to players in that way :icon_lol: Principally because I don't like them very much. I'll make an exception for Silvio.

The fact they both wanted Stearman retained speaks volumes when we already had about 5 centre backs of which he was arguably the worst.

 

[EdgeOfTheAlps]

British Football fans - 'Directors of football are stupid and don't work, let the manager pick the players he wants to bring in'

Clubs that use some form DOF or sports director who has a say in recruitment - Barca, both Madrid's, Bayern, Dortmund, Juve, both Milans, Lazio, Roma, Ajax, Porto, Monaco, PSG, 97% of all other European sides actually.

Current World class English managers - 0
Current World class English players - 0
English managers to win the premiership - 0
Average manager reign - 1.2 yrs (according to what I could find)


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I hate that Sky Sports are pushing Lambert leaving as partly because of our change in transfer policy, it's not new, he even got Marshall which was clearly someone he identified that we either agreed on talent identification wise or were happy to sign off on due to low cost.

Facts, those pesky things must be frightening for those at the E&S and on FB stuck in the 1980s.

Excellent post

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I really didn't think Fielden's blog was THAT bad!!

See for yourselves, folks - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sptnpr

I dunno, something about him always rubs me up the wrong way. Can't quite put my finger on it.

This bit is palpable nonsense:

Despite a couple of signings in January the lack of activity said to me the club were happy with their league status and would go again in the summer.

Or...players with the quality to play in a top six Championship team or in the Premier League won't join a club that come January, has an approximate 0.1% chance of promotion and would therefore be condemning themselves to 18 months minimum in this division?

There's quite a lot in there I disagree with tbh.

 

[Johnny75]

I really didn't think Fielden's blog was THAT bad!!

See for yourselves, folks - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sptnpr

No arguments about Michael Calvin though - he's awesome. I need to grab his new book (No Hunger In Paradise) before I go on holiday in a few weeks. Nowhere Men and Living On The Volcano were absolutely brilliant.

To be fair to him, he does say it's an opinion piece and I guess we should take it as that. I'm guilty of saying 'I know more than you' too so I was maybe a touch harsh on him.

As TP says he isn't objective and his words in that particular section are hollow and without substance, again they are just his over inflated opinion of the press and their knowledge.

 

[darlowolf64]

I really didn't think Fielden's blog was THAT bad!!

See for yourselves, folks - http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sptnpr

No arguments about Michael Calvin though - he's awesome. I need to grab his new book (No Hunger In Paradise) before I go on holiday in a few weeks. Nowhere Men and Living On The Volcano were absolutely brilliant.

You see, I cant get passed his first section on "Takeover" without picking the first hole in it. Attacks the appointment of Zenga without any mention of the two managers Fosun REALLY wanted (apart from a brief Lopegetui mention late on) or the fact that Jackett totally flunked an interview for the post finally given to Zenga.

Blaming Mendes for Gladon signing when he really had nothing to do with it, prefering to have Steve Sidwell or Karl Henry and slating Cavaleiro.

Sorry I'm out...What utter nonsense. Doesn't have an axe to grind? Really?

 

[Langers]

You see, I cant get passed his first section on "Takeover" without picking the first hole in it. Attacks the appointment of Zenga without any mention of the two managers Fosun REALLY wanted (apart from a brief Lopegetui mention late on) or the fact that Jackett totally flunked an interview for the post finally given to Zenga.

Blaming Mendes for Gladon signing when he really had nothing to do with it, prefering to have Steve Sidwell or Karl Henry and slating Cavaleiro.

Sorry I'm out...What utter nonsense. Doesn't have an axe to grind? Really?

Oh I could pick plenty of holes with it, like I say I disagree with him but I don't think it's THAT bad an article - just a different opinion in many ways. It's a world away from the mouth breathing nonsense I've seen spouted elsewhere!

 

[Penk Wolf]

Unfortunately I read that too. A load of condescending shite where it was more of a 'we know what we're talking about and you don't'. From first hand experience most clubs treat journalists with the contempt they deserve. Most journalists are absolutely clueless about football too, they just don't know how the game is actually played, no understanding of technique, form, function, tactics let alone training, building teams and data analysis. They just don't have the brains for it and people like Pat Murphy embarrass themselves every time they try and write an article. Fielden is no different.

Michael Calvin is the exception to this and you can see this in his books and articles the access he has to managers and clubs.

James is fairly knowledgable to be fair and although he is pretty condescending on Twitter at times, he's a good lad and decent guy to have a beer with.

 

[darlowolf64]

Oh I could pick plenty of holes with it, like I say I disagree with him but I don't think it's THAT bad an article - just a different opinion in many ways. It's a world away from the mouth breathing nonsense I've seen spouted elsewhere!

Yes it's his opinion based on zero actual grasp of what really happened :icon_lol:

and yes I've seen some absolute tosh on Facebook

One guy going on about Santo's poor managerial record so I suggested he actually google him and find out about him...He basically couldn't be asrsed and asked "well how many jobs has he had" so I did his research for him and he was all oh, right. These people are the same people who will vote Tory because the paper they read has told them how evil the alternative is

 

[The Bear]

Unfortunately I read that too. A load of condescending shite where it was more of a 'we know what we're talking about and you don't'. .

That's a bit rich coming from you, with your "I was a scout so so you're talking shit" you regularly come out with.

 

[Johnny75]

James is fairly knowledgable to be fair and although he is pretty condescending on Twitter at times, he's a good lad and decent guy to have a beer with.

His twitter timeline (as I have no other way to judge him) is awful and does him no favours. As a journalist you would think that would be much better wouldn't you?

 

[Johnny75]

That's a bit rich coming from you, with your "I was a scout so so you're talking $#@!" you regularly come out with.

Might want to read on Heston as you've shot your bolt a bit early.