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Palace 2-0 Wolves: Verdict Thread

Those lists all seem passing orientated, don't think anyone would dispute Neves is a better passer of the ball than Gallagher.

He doesn't get about the pitch in anything like the same way though, even though he gets through his fair share of yards every game I doubt any team has ever worried about Neves' running before a game.
 
PuntsWolf said:
Your basically comparing Rodri to Bernardo Silva. Not really sure what your point is
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Someone said a description of Gallagher sounded just like Neves. My point, that you seem be agreeing with, is that it didn't.
 
MARKakaJIM said:
Someone said a description of Gallagher sounded just like Neves. My point, that you seem be agreeing with, is that it didn't.
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No I’m on your side! EP is somehow comparing Neves and Gallagaher. Then doubling down on it by putting random stats that prove nothing other than the existing point that they are completely different players.
 
PuntsWolf said:
No I’m on your side! EP is somehow comparing Neves and Gallagaher. Then doubling down on it by putting random stats that prove nothing other than the existing point that they are completely different players.
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Totally different players. Would potentially work quite well as a pair actually.

Any chance, Jeff?
 
May as well get my verdict out there anyway.

Poor performance poor result.

We did OK keeping at 0-0 at HT, but I said at HT that they had plenty of nearly moments and a moment of quality/ bit of luck was going to come eventually and it did. From memory Hwang gave the ball away for the thousandth time, then they progressed it into the final 1/3 relatively easily like they had all game. But this time Sa makes a dogs dinner out of a cross for no reason and then I think Coady and Saiss retreat to the line. They then should have got straight out when the shot wasn’t coming but hesistated and a simple ball through and Zaha is onside. Quality finish though, pretty much only place Sa didn’t have covered.

It was coming, but we gift wrapped it. That’s what happens though when you make no effort or are incapable of doing anything up the other end. Literally happened to Everton on Monday.

Everton changed it tactically though, we didn’t. Personell changes for the hapless Trincao and an “attacking change” bringing Adama on for Semedo. The pattern continued, we carried on been pinned back, forwards isolated, out run and fought. Adama lost on the edge of his own area doing no defending and no attacking. Sa made a few good stops and we got a few good blocks, but then the second goes in and it’s game over.

Never looked like scoring really. If anything Palace were still looking for the third.

Was screaming out for moving to a 433 for me. Or even 5-3-2 and actually get the WBs up the pitch.

We’ve got a bit too carried away with ourselves recently. We’ve got a bit lucky and played some rubbish teams. Today we got unlucky and played a better team so the balance has been restored.

Hopefully we can get through to January competitive and get some players in to help the manager. I feel he got it wrong tactically but his hands are a bit tied so let’s see how we progress second half of season.
 
Carsy said:
Totally different players. Would potentially work quite well as a pair actually.

Any chance, Jeff?
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Just to be clear, I was never comparing Neves and Gallagher.

My point (or attempted one) was that I would love a central midfielder that carried the ball forward, was box-to-box and could Nick goals from open play.

And yes, having Neves alongside that type of midfielder would be the dream scenario.
 
Just watched the 3 minute highlights.
Sa flaps and Semedo shanks on the first equal blame.
On the second the deflection is unlucky, but Saiss has to be stronger against Benteke.
They didn't show the penalty properly, but I thought a foul that continued into the box was one?
 
Tony Towner said:
Just watched the 3 minute highlights.
Sa flaps and Semedo shanks on the first equal blame.
On the second the deflection is unlucky, but Saiss has to be stronger against Benteke.
They didn't show the penalty properly, but I thought a foul that continued into the box was one?
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Looked to me like all the contact was outside of the box; after that RAN kind of kicked the back of his own leg (as a result of Ward barging into him, of course) and that made it appear as if the contact was continuing into the area.
 
Coady and Saiss standing on the line is worse than I remembered. Semedo is literally about to clear the ball, Sa is on his line and they are still standing there. MacArthur then has if Miles out with no intention of shooting (wouldnt matter if he did, keeper has been set ages) and they still don’t get out. Only finally get out as the balls being played.

It’s really bad from a lot of people. But even after Sa’s fuck up there is no danger.
 
Tony Towner said:
Just watched the 3 minute highlights.
Sa flaps and Semedo shanks on the first equal blame.
On the second the deflection is unlucky, but Saiss has to be stronger against Benteke.
They didn't show the penalty properly, but I thought a foul that continued into the box was one?
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What’s the actual rule? Is it when contact starts or where it carries on to?
 
Tony Towner said:
If the foul continues into the box it's a penalty. The short highlights I watched made it difficult to see.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457099447754702856
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Thanks for that. Genuinely wasn’t sure. I saw contact outside box first and just thought therefore it’s a free kick.

Need to have a closer look, but as a penalty was originally given and then overturned I’d imagine it’s pretty clear it’s a free kick
 
It felt like one of the games where the opposition seem to have more players.

When teams press us like that we don't really have an answer, Raul gets isolated and the midfield overrun. Trincao becomes a very expensive luxury.
 
Im surprised nobody has commented on Connor Gallagher controlling the ball with his arm for his goal.

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Cue Elephant Pants coming on saying it hit his testicle.
 
Good to see more evidence of how much more fluid and effective we are when Adama doesn't start.

Pretty clear Palace win from about 15 mins in. They're a good side and we really struggled with their press, but our better players never got going. Trincao anonymous, Hwang was all Hyde and no Jekyll.

Disappointing we never really tested them, Raul wasn't at the races either and we all know when that happens we struggle. Bruno has to take some culpability too, it wasn't working at half time and when he changed things up it was too little, too late

More and more impressed with Kilman however, he stood up to Zaha calmly and strongly whenever tested.
 
Paul said:
That's adult :rolleyes:
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He’s got a point, though. For the whole of last week most on here had already flogged Adama.

I’d still persist with Hwang, Raul, Trincao as the front three (maybe in our home games when we’re seeing more of the ball and the pitch is generally bigger than away grounds like Palace?). But Bruno has to do something about teams that play three in the middle, essentially nullifying the space for Raul to drop in to.

I couldn’t watch the match yesterday but have managed to see the first 30 mins this morning and that’s already obvious.
 
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