O'Neil Confirmed

[Wolvensam]

32 is old?

As is 31 apparently!

 

[WsWolf]

Your bet was. Especially considering the current state of the economy.

It was disgustingly vulgar. This is no surprise to me

Hahahahahahaahaha

 

[Johnny75]

Hahahahahahaahaha

Too much beak for you today.

Onto ignore you go.

 

[WsWolf]

Too much beak for you today.

Onto ignore you go.

How vulgar. Think of the economy.

 

[Alan]

Can you quote some OTT personal comments for me? A few people saying he's shite, which is daily par for the course with shorthand dismissiveness re: players and managers on most football forums.

Don't recall seeing anything so personal and out of order that it justifies the smattering of pearl clutching that's being indulged in

Not justifying any pearl clutching.

He's been compared to Nathan Jones, folks have gone out of their way to wish he fails or not welcome him, he's been called a "yes man", "completely unqualified", a "joke appointment", "fuck off and resign", etc etc. Even Hobbs' boilerplate "wow I'm excited about the guy I just hired, imagine that" statement got pelted.

People are upset, understandably, but the way O'Neil has been immediately dismissed is well OTT, IMV. This is the sort of reaction I'd have expected if we'd gone with Lampard.

 

[YoungWolf]

Not justifying any pearl clutching.

He's been compared to Nathan Jones, folks have gone out of their way to wish he fails or not welcome him, he's been called a "yes man", "completely unqualified", a "joke appointment", "fuck off and resign", etc etc. Even Hobbs' boilerplate "wow I'm excited about the guy I just hired, imagine that" statement got pelted.

People are upset, understandably, but the way O'Neil has been immediately dismissed is well OTT, IMV. This is the sort of reaction I'd have expected if we'd gone with Lampard.

I would have preferred Lampard, and I can’t stand him!

 

[Alan]

It's just social media. He'll get support in the ground at least for the start of the season. Things can and probably will change, but at the moment there's not a home game we are likely favourites for until December. The events of the last 24 hours haven't changed that, the reaction to the results if they play out that way will though

This is what he should be judged on tbf.

 

[Tredman]

Not justifying any pearl clutching.

He's been compared to Nathan Jones, folks have gone out of their way to wish he fails or not welcome him, he's been called a "yes man", "completely unqualified", a "joke appointment", "fuck off and resign", etc etc. Even Hobbs' boilerplate "wow I'm excited about the guy I just hired, imagine that" statement got pelted.

People are upset, understandably, but the way O'Neil has been immediately dismissed is well OTT, IMV. This is the sort of reaction I'd have expected if we'd gone with Lampard.

It’s the sort of reaction anyone would get if they landed a job for which they were massively unqualified or inexperienced

 

[Alan]

I would have preferred Lampard, and I can’t stand him!

I love you Louie, but... I think I have to sit in the opposite stand from you at Molineux after this.

 

[WsWolf]

Not justifying any pearl clutching.

He's been compared to Nathan Jones, folks have gone out of their way to wish he fails or not welcome him, he's been called a "yes man", "completely unqualified", a "joke appointment", "fuck off and resign", etc etc. Even Hobbs' boilerplate "wow I'm excited about the guy I just hired, imagine that" statement got pelted.

People are upset, understandably, but the way O'Neil has been immediately dismissed is well OTT, IMV. This is the sort of reaction I'd have expected if we'd gone with Lampard.

'Welcome Doormat' is one that stuck out. I did chuckle at that one.

 

[Kenny]

'Welcome Doormat' is one that stuck out. I did chuckle at that one.

Those English/Welsh/Aussie hybrids have a strange sense of humour tbh

 

[big mean bunny]

I haven't checked the validity of this, but I saw some Bournemouth fans criticising he was too quick to put CBs at the fullback positions, at least he can't do that here if it is true, as we currently don't have enough CBs.

 

[Alan]

It’s the sort of reaction anyone would get if they landed a job they were massively unqualified or inexperienced

I know he didn't play stellar football but dismissing last season completely out of hand like this feels so harsh to me.

What's the bar? What makes a manager "qualified" to coach at Wolves? I think it's clear that the goal for the coming season is to stay up and regroup afterward (I grant that some here will feel that Fosun have no intention of turning the taps back on in a year's time). I think O'Neil can probably manage that with a better group of players than he managed it with last season.

I'm not reading a whole lot into the length of his contract as I do imagine he's not on a ton relative to other Prem managers and that we can get rid swiftly and cheaply if the need arises.

What happens if GO'N fails is a completely separate matter and would be nothing short of a disaster. There's no doubt that Fosun are taking an incredible risk if their strategy is what I read it to be.

 

[Kenny]

I haven't checked the validity of this, but I saw some Bournemouth fans criticising he was too quick to put CBs at the fullback positions, at least he can't do that here if it is true, as we currently don't have enough CBs.

Dawson - Jonny - Doherty - Kilman

Sorted.

 

[Alan]

I haven't checked the validity of this, but I saw some Bournemouth fans criticising he was too quick to put CBs at the fullback positions, at least he can't do that here if it is true, as we currently don't have enough CBs.

Quick look at their fullbacks tells me Ryan Fredericks is their best one on either side... He's okay but hardly a name I'd think you'd want written in pen on the team sheet.

 

[Tony Towner]

Not justifying any pearl clutching.

He's been compared to Nathan Jones, folks have gone out of their way to wish he fails or not welcome him, he's been called a "yes man", "completely unqualified", a "joke appointment", "fuck off and resign", etc etc. Even Hobbs' boilerplate "wow I'm excited about the guy I just hired, imagine that" statement got pelted.

People are upset, understandably, but the way O'Neil has been immediately dismissed is well OTT, IMV. This is the sort of reaction I'd have expected if we'd gone with Lampard.

Don't you think it feels very Bruno Lage though Alan, in terms of wanting a manager who can be manipulated. I take your point re OTT comments, but a lot of people on here are being charged £650 and more and are supposed to be accepting of this. It's not against Gary O'Neil the person it's about what he represents

 

[WsWolf]

I haven't checked the validity of this, but I saw some Bournemouth fans criticising he was too quick to put CBs at the fullback positions, at least he can't do that here if it is true, as we currently don't have enough CBs.

Take a bow Gary O'Neil, Bournemouth are almost safe - here's how they did it

Bournemouth were down and out. Then suddenly they weren't. Here's how they did it

theathletic.com

Doesn't really answer that question but I read this today and it seems to directly contradict a lot of what has been posted about O'Neil being super defensive etc.

 

[big mean bunny]

Yeah I read that and a few other pieces. There fans seem to vary wildly with what they say, but the comment I mentioned was from reddit, and they did seem a tad more sensible and balanced, although a few on there seemed to think he had been treated a bit unfairly not to have been given this year too with signings.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

I know he didn't play stellar football but dismissing last season completely out of hand like this feels so harsh to me.

What's the bar? What makes a manager "qualified" to coach at Wolves? I think it's clear that the goal for the coming season is to stay up and regroup afterward (I grant that some here will feel that Fosun have no intention of turning the taps back on in a year's time). I think O'Neil can probably manage that with a better group of players than he managed it with last season.

I'm not reading a whole lot into the length of his contract as I do imagine he's not on a ton relative to other Prem managers and that we can get rid swiftly and cheaply if the need arises.

What happens if GO'N fails is a completely separate matter and would be nothing short of a disaster. There's no doubt that Fosun are taking an incredible risk if their strategy is what I read it to be.

What’s the bar? Well some evidence that they can get the team to play a reasonable standard of football, preferably at more than one club as we saw with Lage a stopped clock is correct twice a day. GO had Bournemouth battling and riding their luck - look at the stats - his season was the equivalent of Sa in the first half of his first season. Throw in the most vomit-inducing time wasting and I can’t see how anyone is pleased by his appointment. Now he’s got a chance he never should have got we can only hope he grasps it but there’s precious little evidence to give any optimism.

 

[HanDoJin]

Lampard? Literally dreadful with a squad far better than many (on paper). You need your head checking if you want that fraud