New - The things that really annoy you

[Johnny75]

Thats not the electronics though - that the software associated with it, thinking is you make hte new features so attractive and only aavilable on newer h/w people want to upgrade.

Jobs famously held things back so that could happen. I would say that's planned obscelesence.

I agree with you on accidental obscelesence because of cheap manufacture, but I think that's more to do with chasing a profit than consumers not wanting to pay more.

 

[Alan]

Thats not the electronics though - that the software associated with it, thinking is you make hte new features so attractive and only aavilable on newer h/w people want to upgrade.

If you're really cynical you could say that planned obsolescence is very real in anything that runs off an integrated li-ion battery.

 

[Tredman]

Jobs famously held things back so that could happen. I would say that's planned obscelesence.

I agree with you on accidental obscelesence because of cheap manufacture, but I think that's more to do with chasing a profit than consumers not wanting to pay more.

'Things' are features though, they don't stop the core functionality from working

 

[Tredman]

If you're really cynical you could say that planned obsolescence is very real in anything that runs off an integrated li-ion battery.

Fair, but what else you gonna do?

 

[Alan]

Fair, but what else you gonna do?

Bring back wires!

I'm being deliberately obtuse tbf.

 

[Johnny75]

'Things' are features though, they don't stop the core functionality from working

They do in future iterations. I would say that's planned.

 

[Tredman]

They do in future iterations. I would say that's planned.

Such as? Nothing stopping an OG iphone from working right now

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Anyone who buys an iPhone deserves exactly what they get, they treat their consumers like 7 year olds. Lovely "feature" on the one I had around 2014 where Spotify would endlessly cache stuff, hogging all the storage, and Apple being Apple there was no way to stop it or delete it (I did have a third party app on my PC to sort it but they ended up even blocking that). You had to wait for it to fill up to the brim, then attempt to install another app so it would say "not enough space, shall I delete all this crap". Thanks.

 

[Alan]

*scrambles to hide the dozen Apple devices I own*

 

[Tredman]

Anyone who buys an iPhone deserves exactly what they get, they treat their consumers like 7 year olds. Lovely "feature" on the one I had around 2014 where Spotify would endlessly cache stuff, hogging all the storage, and Apple being Apple there was no way to stop it or delete it (I did have a third party app on my PC to sort it but they ended up even blocking that). You had to wait for it to fill up to the brim, then attempt to install another app so it would say "not enough space, shall I delete all this crap". Thanks.

Is that not on Spotify for coding a crap app tho?

[posted from my mac]

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

To be fair if I could justify the outlay then I would happily have a Mac just for work and a Windows PC for everything else. But I can't, I'm not made of money.

 

[Alan]

Such as? Nothing stopping an OG iphone from working right now

Sort of, I sure as shit wouldn't be connecting it to cellular or the internet, though.

 

[Tredman]

To be fair if I could justify the outlay then I would happily have a Mac just for work and a Windows PC for everything else. But I can't, I'm not made of money.

I do love my work macbook

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Is that not on Spotify for coding a crap app tho?

[posted from my mac]

No as it didn't/doesn't happen on Android. It's an Apple problem and ultimately if I want to view and mess around with my own files on my own phone then I shouldn't be walled off from doing so.

 

[Alan]

To be fair if I could justify the outlay then I would happily have a Mac just for work and a Windows PC for everything else. But I can't, I'm not made of money.

The frustrating thing is that even with something as absurd as the Studio Display, as soon as I unpacked mine I immediately thought to myself, "shit, they've really gone and made this feel like it was worth the money somehow".

Also, I'm a sheep.

 

[Tredman]

No as it didn't/doesn't happen on Android. It's an Apple problem and ultimately if I want to view and mess around with my own files on my own phone then I shouldn't be walled off from doing so.

It a Spotify dev problem on apple then.

 

[Alan]

Is that not on Spotify for coding a crap app tho?

[posted from my mac]

Most likely a little of both; it's partly on Apple for being very strict with what they allow devs to access via the SDK and partly on Spotify for not investing in a workaround.

Also, circa 2014 the iPhone app was probably written in Objective-C, which is the Dean Saunders of programming languages. So tbh I can't blame Spotify for not wanting to do it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It a Spotify dev problem on apple then.

It's no longer my problem, which is the main thing

Also EVERYTHING being tethered to your Apple ID is tiresome. As is the rite of passage you become your parents' unpaid IT Support over the years, my Dad will not move away from iPhones and fixing problems with them is always such a fucking ballache.

 

[Alan]

I like knowing that my evil overlords are all in one place.

 

[AndyWolves]

Pretty sure I saw a graphic that showed a spike in google searches of "iphone running slowly" or something just before each new iphone was released