Live Match Discussion 2022/23

[Quirkafleeg]

The “you know what you are” chant during the Hungary National anthem probably sealed that before a ball had been kicked.

And coming very much from The Southbank. #justsayin

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I was listening to 5live on the way home and Dublin and Warnock were watching the warm up saying our players were going through the motions and there wasn't any intensity, they effectively called it before the game. Some people will say you are playing for your country, pride, etc etc - I looked at tickets for tonight and after they'd gone to the loyal England fans you were left with £50 for an adult and £40 for a kid in the BW, if you've paid that then you have every right to be pissed off, but the players are just not there, they are human and want to go on holiday. Of course if this was the World Cup they wouldn't have played like that, but that's when I'll judge them.

Agreed.

I'm amazed at the hand-wringing about this, the calls for him to be sacked etc.

The idea of sacking Southgate 2 games before a World Cup starts is lunacy, lets assume they appoint Howe (scomit) or Potter to replace him, how are they supposed to get their methods of play across in just 2 get togethers? That aside from how this could effect the team spirit and confidence of a squad that clearly have a lot of respect and time for Southgate (despite not really showing it last night).

That's not to say that losing 4-0 to Hungary isn't shit, it is, but sacking Southgate over it would be akin to sacking Klopp after Villa gubbed Liverpool 7-2.

 

[jd1981]

Southgate has credit in the bank to not be under any scrutiny until after the World Cup.
He’s probably learnt a lot about the character of certain players of whom some will be in serious jeopardy of not going to the World Cup.
Also with his strongest 11 expect to see, Declan Rice and Jordan Henderson back in to add some natural leadership. Certain players aren’t as good as the media tell them they’re Stones, Saka, Bowen, Mount etc
With the World Cup I don’t see England getting beyond the QF which bizarrely would represent a poor showing compared to previous tournaments.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

A defeat to France in the QFs looks possible from my fag packet predictions.

 

[Johnny75]

A defeat to France in the QFs looks possible from my fag packet predictions.

I'm thinking more a defeat to Wales gets us knocked out following a 1-0 loss to the Yanks and 0-0 draw against Iran.

 

[Tredman]

I'm thinking more a defeat to Wales gets us knocked out following a 1-0 loss to the Yanks and 0-0 draw against Iran.

I can definitely see two 0-0s and 1-0 loss.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Wales will beat us I can see it. Goal from a set piece and then park the bus.

 

[Tony Towner]

We'll beat Iran and the US, Southgate has a good record of taking care of the also rans in competitive games. Wales depends on what team we play / what they need

 

[Johnny75]

We'll beat Iran and the US, Southgate has a good record of taking care of the also rans in competitive games. Wales depends on what team we play / what they need

Like Hungary?

 

[Tony Towner]

Depends on your view of competitive as opposed to glorified friendly

 

[Johnny75]

Depends on your view of competitive as opposed to glorified friendly

Well it's a competition with a tangible prize.

That would mean it isn't a friendly.

 

[Tony Towner]

Yet all nations play mix and match teams, making it not competitive in the true sense

 

[Johnny75]

Yet all nations play mix and match teams, making it not competitive in the true sense

I know you want to be right but you're wrong on this.

They are competitive games.

 

[Tony Towner]

I don't want to be right...I am

 

[Kenny]

They are competitive games.

Competitive in theory.
Fucking pointless by the 14th June in reality

 

[Johnny75]

Competitive in theory.
Fucking pointless by the 14th June in reality

Tell the Hungarians that...

 

[Kenny]

Will do. Any other messages for them?

 

[Alan]

Y'all didn't beat us in 2010 and our squad now is much better than it was then.

Don't overlook us!

 

[Johnny75]

Will do. Any other messages for them?

Tony's always right?

 

[Kenny]

Tony's always right?

They will already know that