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Jeremy Corbyn

I would imagine myself and other life long Labour Supporters who are thoroughly pissed off with the current situation think he does.
 
Agreed, he offers something for both sides of the party.

On the face of it, he appeals more to the majority of people who voted for Labour in the general election and also those that voted for a different Conservative to what they've got.
 
John McDonnell on Hilary Benn's speech: "His oratory was great. It reminded me of Tony Blair’s speech taking us into the Iraq War." radio 4 today.
 
John McDonnell on Hilary Benn's speech: "His oratory was great. It reminded me of Tony Blair’s speech taking us into the Iraq War." radio 4 today.

Indeed, if Syria gets messy then Benn's speech will probably go down as the one that scuppered his chances of the Labour leadership. The decision last night was a huge risk to those who voted in favour. The spectre of Iraq looms large in any decision to deploy armed forces in the middle east...this action is no different.
 
Indeed, if Syria gets messy then Benn's speech will probably go down as the one that scuppered his chances of the Labour leadership. The decision last night was a huge risk to those who voted in favour. The spectre of Iraq looms large in any decision to deploy armed forces in the middle east...this action is no different.

The BBC's correspondent in Damascus, Lyse Doucet, was on R4 this morning and reckoned that it was going to get very messy and be a very, long painful business. She was speaking after Michael Fallon had been on to put the case for bombing and claiming that the peace process was underway already. Her point was that all the fine words and speeches bore very little relation to the reality on the ground in Syria, and this talk of a mixture of local forces doing the ground fighting was little more than fantasy.
 
I don't know what paucity means, maybe we'll have more idea on how the revolution is going in the morning.
 
camerons 70,000 troops on the ground will turn into blairs WMD. They're disparate groups fighting a common enemy. Remove that common enemy, they'll fight each other.

This will go on for years. Mission creep is inevitable.
 
Labour hold the seat in the Oldham by-election, with an increased share of the vote.

May buy Corbyn some added credit for now amongst the parliamentary party, as it indicates that he has energised rank-and-file party members. The first vote in a Middle England seat will be his make-or-break moment though, you must feel.
 
On the face of it, he appeals more to the majority of people who voted for Labour in the general election and also those that voted for a different Conservative to what they've got.

One thing I'll never understand is how anyone can vote for the Conservative Party and actually be surprised at what they get.
 
One thing I'll never understand is how anyone can vote for the Conservative Party and actually be surprised at what they get.

I think a lot of people didn't realise how much the LibDems held them back.
 
Is there any evidence that the government is particularly unpopular though? Or that they dislike the more extreme policies they're putting forward?

Seems to me that the majority of people don't really give a toss about the NHS or the BBC or the vulnerable members of our society. They'll say they do if asked, but I think the Conservatives understand very well that deep down most people are self-interested and don't think about much beyond their front door. Which isn't meant as "isn't everyone who votes Tory evil and stupid" jibe, just a general comment on people's motivations.
 
Is there any evidence that the government is particularly unpopular though? Or that they dislike the more extreme policies they're putting forward?

Seems to me that the majority of people don't really give a toss about the NHS or the BBC or the vulnerable members of our society. They'll say they do if asked, but I think the Conservatives understand very well that deep down most people are self-interested and don't think about much beyond their front door. Which isn't meant as "isn't everyone who votes Tory evil and stupid" jibe, just a general comment on people's motivations.

Nailed.
 
Is there any evidence that the government is particularly unpopular though? Or that they dislike the more extreme policies they're putting forward?

Seems to me that the majority of people don't really give a toss about the NHS or the BBC or the vulnerable members of our society. They'll say they do if asked, but I think the Conservatives understand very well that deep down most people are self-interested and don't think about much beyond their front door. Which isn't meant as "isn't everyone who votes Tory evil and stupid" jibe, just a general comment on people's motivations.

It's a pretty depressing picture whichever way you paint it. I don't much like a country where the prevailing attitude is 'what's in it for me'.
 
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