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Jeremy Corbyn

Paddingtonwolf said:
Wales has never really been that keen on independence at all - devolution seems to suit them quite well.

But I can't see a United four country Union lasting much longer.
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However, following the Brexit and basically your second sentence, Plaid have started to bang that drum again.
 
There is no chance in hell of a "United Ireland"
 
True - but I am not sure Plaid carry quite the weight that say the SNP do. Labour is very strong in the valleys.
 
darlowolf64 said:
There is no chance in hell of a "United Ireland"
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Of course there isn't. However, Sinn Fein are chancing their arm as part of this dog's breakfast. Absolutely no chance it could ever happen. Too much invested in the Good Friday agreement for a start.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
The fact that Scotland voted so differently in the referendum means a break-up between Scotland and the rest seems more likely than not for me. Less so in Northern Ireland. What do you break up to? Sinn Fein are obviously rattling the United Ireland sabre but that is anathema to all the Unionist parties so I can't see that happening. Wales has never really been that keen on independence at all - devolution seems to suit them quite well.

But I can't see a United four country Union lasting much longer.
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Then again the economic position for an independant Scotland is probably worse now than it was in 2014 & the EU are not making encouraging noises re an automatic re entry there

Currency issue probably also more toxic - would Scots want the euro (which they might be told is a prerequsite for EU membership). No way will they get currency union & the pound from the rest of the UK
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
Of course there isn't. However, Sinn Fein are chancing their arm as part of this dog's breakfast. Absolutely no chance it could ever happen. Too much invested in the Good Friday agreement for a start.
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Agree on the united Ireland issue, but the 'open' border issue will be difficult to negotiate on EU exit - will be our land border with the EU community
 
sitting on the sidelines, or in the margins you might say, the brexit vote has either fucked or saved british politics, but like brexit only time will tell.
 
pavlosmacwolf said:
sitting on the sidelines, or in the margins you might say, the brexit vote has either fucked or saved british politics, but like brexit only time will tell.
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At the moment all its done is poke a very big stick into the anthill that is Westminster - all running around like maniacs attacking all & sundry.

Not impossible that this leads to a break up of the 2 main parties & a complete realignment of politics in the UK - not the best idea when the negotiations re EU need to start to have a situation that there is nobody to do it
 
Newsnight reporting that 90% of Labour constituency leaders are backing Corbyn and 'furious' at action of MPs...
 
How much sway do the Labour Constituency leaders have in choice of candidates at the general election? Could these MPs be ousted at declaration time for the next election, whenever that could be?

I don't know, so I am asking if anybody does have some clarity?
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
How much sway do the Labour Constituency leaders have in choice of candidates at the general election? Could these MPs be ousted at declaration time for the next election, whenever that could be?

I don't know, so I am asking if anybody does have some clarity?
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From the Labour Party website...

"Constituency (CLP)

Made up of several branches and based on the electoral area for the election of MPs. Via your CLP, you can choose the members from your area to represent you at annual conference and you can help select your parliamentary candidate."
 
What does deselection mean?

For every General Election, an MP has to reapply to their local party for selection as a candidate.

Normally - if the MP is popular with local activists - this is largely a symbolic process, but the party can vote to refuse to reselect them as a candidate if they do not stand down at the following election.
 
There's going to be some fun when they all join together at Labour Party Conference the new members will give the MPs pelters.
 
darlowolf64 said:
What does deselection mean?

For every General Election, an MP has to reapply to their local party for selection as a candidate.

Normally - if the MP is popular with local activists - this is largely a symbolic process, but the party can vote to refuse to reselect them as a candidate if they do not stand down at the following election.
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interesting. definitely a mechanic there to give the MPs a proper shot across the bows.
 
Why?

If you are a Conservative voter then the pain rather pales into insignificance, or you can't take advantage of the pain because of other factors closer to home.

If you are elsewhere aligned then having the two main parties fucked up is potentially a disaster area.

I see nothing to enjoy here.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
Why?

If you are a Conservative voter then the pain rather pales into insignificance, or you can't take advantage of the pain because of other factors closer to home.

If you are elsewhere aligned then having the two main parties $#@!ed up is potentially a disaster area.

I see nothing to enjoy here.
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Chaotic Neutral; just wants to watch the UK burn.
 
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