Jeremy Corbyn

[Deleted Cyber]

So why would they want to reduce immigration?

Because the infrastructure of the UK is designed for around 60 million max, absolute max and because of years if cuts it is under maximum strain particularly in densely populated areas that encourage unscrupulous landlords to do multi occupancy. In the poorer areas of Kent Sussex and Hampshire it really is an issue hence why leave and ukip support is so high in those areas particularly coastal. If you can't cut it you need to restrict it while having a sustainable plan for growth in health eduction and housing to meet demand. This is not currently the case or strategy

 

[Dublin Drummer Wolf]

Did anyone see Corbyn on the Last Leg tonight?

He came across very well

 

[YoungWolf]

Yeah, quite brave of him to do it to be honest as people will take any chance to have a pop at him but he came across very well like you said!

 

[Derby Wolf]

What about all the immigrants who come over here just to take advantage of our free healthcare and benefits system. We have been an easy touch for too long.

Yep, I can picture Abdul and Co in Afghanistan positively wetting themselves over the £36.95 per week they'll get if they claim Asylum in the UK. Let's hope they knock up the other half and she can claim the whopping £3 extra eh?

There are broadly three identified welfare systems as identified by Gosta Esping-Andersen

1) liberal - little provision, highly stigmatised, workfare programmes common, conditionality. As found in the USA and increasingly the UK.

2) corporatist - traditionally paid to the father, encourages the nuclear family with a breadwinner. common in Germany.

3) social democratic - universal benefits, encourages female participation in the work place and mostly found in Scandinavia.

You also realise one of the biggest populations of health tourists are women from Ireland and in some cases British citizens traveling to England and Wales for abortions which are largely illegal across Ireland even in the cases of rape, incest and issues with the foetus? 19,000 Irish and 4500 NI women traveled to England and Wales 2010-2014 (British Pregnancy Advisory Service) I'm assuming they're pale enough not to count for you, mind.

 

[Dinowolf]

Abdul & co., Afghans anyway, were shown on a news program as being in France trying to find an illegal way to get into the UK.

They went to Calais and found the security too tight, so they went to Cherbourg where the news-team caught up with them.

There was about 20 of them, all men.

 

[Dinowolf]

Abdul & co., Afghans anyway, were shown on a news program as being in France trying to find an illegal way to get into the UK.

They went to Calais and found the security too tight, so they went to Cherbourg where the news-team caught up with them.

There was about 20 of them, all men.

 

[ROVERT47]

He really needs to step up if he's that sincere about remaining in the EU and get the message across to those Labour supporters in the North who have turned to UKIP on one issue.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Did anyone see Corbyn on the Last Leg tonight?

He came across very well

Agreed. I thought he did very well indeed.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

He really needs to step up if he's that sincere about remaining in the EU and get the message across to those Labour supporters in the North who have turned to UKIP on one issue.

What do you want him to do that he isn't already doing?

 

[ROVERT47]

Maybe it's me then but his heart doesn't really appear to be in it the way other remain politicians have shown, perhaps that's just his style.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I dunno Trev. His heart is never going to be in wholehearted support of European institutions. He doesn't seem to like them. However he believes reform from inside is the way to go. So it is hardly likely to sound a particularly tub-thumping soundbite from him or he gets attacked for potential hypocrisy.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Maybe it's me then but his heart doesn't really appear to be in it the way other remain politicians have shown, perhaps that's just his style.

Like Cameron and Osborn? Or Sarah Wollaston?

It can be quite difficult to be passionate about staying the same.

 

[ROVERT47]

Can't argue with that, he always appears to be toeing the party line, if he was still a backbencher and not constrained by the responsibility of being leader he'd be in the Brexit camp.

Edit Re: Paddy.

 

[Kenny]

Would also say he doesn't want to get chummy with Cameron either. Some of the direct attacks on Corbyn as a person have come from DC.

 

[ROVERT47]

Like Cameron and Osborn? Or Sarah Wollaston?

It can be quite difficult to be passionate about staying the same.

A vote in favour of remain appears to be reliant on getting the traditional Labour supporters vote out according to the commentators, Tories ain't gonna do that.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Would also say he doesn't want to get chummy with Cameron either. Some of the direct attacks on Corbyn as a person have come from DC.

I think that is correct. There is no love lost there, so while Corbyn does now appear to want to remain, he does not want to be seen as on the same side as Cameron.

 

[leedswolf]

Jezza is no tub thumper.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Corbyn is a more traditional Labour politician and is a lot cooler on the prospect of the EU than his Blairite colleagues; indeed the Labour politicians of 1973 were the ones most against us joining the EU with the Conservatives fuelled by neoliberalism were all for the common market and that perspective has gradually swung 360 degrees as the EU gained more legislative power which went against Conservative values. He won't profess his undying love for all things EU, he has been particularly scathing about it at times.

 

[arklowolf]

Hahahahahaha. Unelectable Jezza. What a hoot.

 

[darlowolf64]

I think the smug Blairites are going to get a major shock if they try to oust him and he stands for re-election. The rank and file Labour Party Membership may just vote in larger numbers than last time to keep him in place.

The whole idea of an opposition party is to have different ideas and aims to that of the Governing Party, to represent the large number of the people in the Country that didn't vote for the Government. The Labour Party/remains of New Labour are just a watered down version of the Conservative party in power and this is NOT a good thing.