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Jeremy Corbyn

FrankMunro-371 said:
My apologies, I did not realise a response was necessary. Though I think it is fairly obvious what the difference is. I will say no more on the subject.
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Corbyn missed the first meeting due to prior private engagements that could not be avoided - just like Cameron did. In fact, it took Cameron three months as after being elected in December, there was no meeting in January, he missed February as stated and then was inducted in March. As the situation is unavoidable, why does it mean Corbyn is being a rebel but Cameron is/was not?
 
You aren't going to get a response from him on this. He does come across as a bit of a WUM in this thread, sad to say.
 
Back to discussing me again. Still if that brightens up your days then so be it.
 
You have still failed to answer the question Frank
 
He'd probably find it too difficult to justify the clearly biased comments he made.

It's a good example of people basing their opinions of Corbyn purely on what they read in the right wing papers.
 
Jezza feels we should have arrested jihadi John rather than killing him... I wonder how he thought that was going to be a possibility?
 
tredman said:
He'd probably find it too difficult to justify the clearly biased comments he made.

It's a good example of people basing their opinions of Corbyn purely on what they read in the right wing papers.
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It isn't. Frank has given his justification for his stance to me elsewhere. I hope he posts it on here. Some of us may not agree but he has a valid and worthy justification for his stance that I hope he gives so it can be open to civilised debate.
 
Premier Quality said:
Jezza feels we should have arrested jihadi John rather than killing him... I wonder how he thought that was going to be a possibility?
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He actually said that in an ideal world it would have been better to put Jihadi John before a court of law to be dealt with. I would agree. However, this isn't an ideal world.
 
I don't think anyone supports state-sanctioned murder. The man was obviously a colossal twat but better to bring him home and try him than arbitrarily bomb him out of sight. But means to an end, I suppose.

As a pacifist I don't want the UK getting involved in any overseas military action, but I accept I am in the minority.
 
The problem is arresting Jihadi John would have been a boots on the ground operation, and therefore would have carried grave risk of lives lost among those attempting to arrest him. Drone strike is risk free in terms of our side casualties so you can see the logic.
 
It's one of those things isn't it - it's not possible to arrest him, he's in a city completely out of our reach - so rather than letting him keep killing hostages and creating propaganda videos for his group, he's now dead and it's clear there is no hiding place.

Rather than wishing for the impossible, it's better to focus on the fact a massive scumbag is no longer able to kill innocent people.
 
Of course, said scumbag is now a martyr to significant numbers of equally scumbaggish twats. So we haven't really eliminated the problem. Not sure how we do to be brutally honest. We can't pitch up in IS land with vast troop numbers, as it just screams Russia in Afghanistan in 1980, and that went terrifically well for them.
 
Yes, you're both right. We can't live in an idealistic world. I can't say I shed any tears about him passing away but on a moral level I can't support that action (but it was the outcome we all wanted ultimately, I suppose).
 
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