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Jeremy Corbyn

Paddingtonwolf said:
I reckon he is a cast iron certainty to do that.
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Just for the political bantz.

Honestly, you may disagree with the man politically. Heaven knows as a Conservative voter I do, but surely this attack with comments as nonsensical as that, and then the appalling two front pages from the Sun since the man was elected, is not attacking any policy, it is attacking the individual. I really disagree with that. Negative politics at work, and I would hope that people could move beyond such crass stuff.
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After the filth that was posted by the left after Margaret Thatcher died? You must be kidding. All bets are off. I did have the decency to refrain at the passing of Tony Benn. But any that are alive are fair game as far as I'm concerned.
 
Good lord. Thatcher was fairly unpopular for a reason. Even as a supporter I can see why people reacted that way. All bets are off? Jesus - behave.
 
Paddy, you protest too much. You claim in almost every post that you are a Conservative supporter. Are you really?
 
Yes.

I have been eligible to vote in every election since 1992. In 1997 I didn't vote Conservative. In every other election I did.
 
The irony with all this is and Corbyn is not to blame, for the first time for ages a leader of a political party was elected on policy rather than personality.
If ever the tenure of a political leader was going to be all about personality its this one.
 
Johnny75 said:
Only that's not true, the Guardian is the 2nd most popular paper online with nearly 9m unique users. The Mail is the most read with over 10m users. Nobody else really comes close to these 2.
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Only it is true. The 9m users you speak of is a monthly figure and does indeed include readers who arrive on their site via social media.
Which means on average that it is only a figure of 300,000 per day, most of which stay on the site for 1-2 minutes and actually view 1-2 pages. (people like me who might see for example a link that say someone like you has posted on here).
Plus of course you have to allow for the fact that an online visitor doesn't have to be based in the UK and may not be eligible to vote in the UK. (The Guardian in particular has a significant online readership in the U.S.)
So it is imo a large mandate from a small readership.
(and particularly so when you add all of the left-leaning media and compare the total with all that of the so-called right-leaning media).
But anyway, what does it really matter? We all know that Corbyn's appeal is limited and he doesn't stand an earthly chance of ever being elected as PM (I doubt he'll even be in charge by the time the next G.E. comes around. The left will blame the Tory media for his failure, they'd have to blame someone, after all it could never be them that was wrong could it?
 
ROVERT47 said:
The irony with all this is and Corbyn is not to blame, for the first time for ages a leader of a political party was elected on policy rather than personality.
If ever the tenure of a political leader was going to be all about personality its this one.
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I agree with the first bit, Corbyn has been elected on policy by the majority of his party.
But I disagree with the second bit.
It's not his personality that is the problem, it's the policies.
His policies might appeal to the post graduate, the public sector, the unions, a few minority groups and the BBC, but that's it.
No one else wants his old fashioned, out of date policies.
The Scots want the SNP, In England the working classes want UKIP, in the South they want the Tories.
Labour are finished unless they change their policies.

and rioting isn't going to change that either.
 
Big furore already about the fact that the top button of his shirt was undone and his tie loose, what the fucks that got to do with anything?
Oh and for the record, I'm a lifetime Labour supporter and I don't agree with a lot of his policies.
 
ROVERT47 said:
Big furore already about the fact that the top button of his shirt was undone and his tie loose, what the $#@!s that got to do with anything?
Oh and for the record, I'm a lifetime Labour supporter and I don't agree with a lot of his policies.
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It's obviously got nothing to do with anything.
I don't buy a lot of this 'the media is biased' stuff that's all.

The fact that he didn't sing the National Anthem appealed to a lot of his supporters (see this thread yesterday). Fact is they are in the minority.
Each to their own. As long as they uphold democracy and abide by the law that's fine by me.
 
Who really cares if he sang the national anthem or not? Are people actually outraged about this? The bloke's a republican, at least he sticks to what he believes in. It says a lot if people are more outraged by this than they are about the attacks on the most vulnerable members of society by our current government.

I am not necessarily a Labour voter, I have voted for them in the past but didn't in the last election. With the direction they were heading in I was starting to feel like I wouldn't be able to vote for them again unless something changed. The party decision not to vote against the Welfare Bill was pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. At lot will change in the next 5 years, and who knows if Corbyn will even still be leader in 2020, but I can now see them as a party that I could consider voting for once again.
 
Tyrannosaurus Dan said:
I am not necessarily a Labour voter, I have voted for them in the past but didn't in the last election. With the direction they were heading in I was starting to feel like I wouldn't be able to vote for them again unless something changed. The party decision not to vote against the Welfare Bill was pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. At lot will change in the next 5 years, and who knows if Corbyn will even still be leader in 2020, but I can now see them as a party that I could consider voting for once again.
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I'm in a similar boat to you. Although I did vote for Labour in the General Election, because the Stourbridge candidate would have been an excellent MP. But I like what I've read about Corbyn - the media reaction to him has been an absolute disgrace. I don't agree with him on a few of his policies (one example - I am not a Republican), but I agree with far more than I disagree with. And it doesn't look like the kind of man who will change his stance on those policies just to win a few crummy votes unlike other politicians.

There wasn't enough integrity in the Labour party for my liking, but he should change that. And that will probably be enough to win my vote. I wish him well and really hope that people aren't purely driven by the media and are able to use their own brains and common sense. Unlikely, I know. #sheep
 
Time for the Tory Lites to move on?

So here is the chatter: that one or a number of the New Labour Blairite ultras could cross the floor to the Tories, because of their personal relationship with Osborne - to whom they feel closer, in a political and social sense, than they do to Labour's new leader, Jeremy Corbyn
Osborne mixes in the same modish London metrosexual and metropolitan elite circles as them. He takes their calls, responds to their emails, and is fully abreast of their current agony.
And they admire him. More than once I've been told, by a couple of their gang, that Osborne is the most impressive politician of the moment.
 
Corbyn wants a grown up PMQ's
Starts by reading out "real peoples" email's in PMQ's to slight guffaws when he says stuff such as "Steven asks...."
After a few typical hear hears and all that malarkey,Cameron makes a snidy remark about "this is supposed to be a grown up PMQ's now"
Those bunch of wankers will never grow up.
 
Q1: is about affordable housing and extortionate rent.
Q2: is about tax credits and the cuts making it harder for low paid workers.
 
There's one about rent cuts in housing associations.
 
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