January Transfer Window, 25/26 Season

[big mean bunny]

We cannot go back to Johnstone. I get Sa can be frustrating but the increase in form is linked to him regardless of what people say, and isn't impacted by how shocking he seemed at the start of the season. No good having defensive tactics when your keeper lets in the types of goals Johnstone does.

If he had been dropped sooner we potentially have an extra 4 points, and whilst not a lot it would have made a potential difference to how we approached January.

 

[NicholasG1973]

I’m inclined to agree with this. If someone’s willing to give us our money back for a player that’s seemingly not in the managers plans now or in the future, you might as well take it.

If our recruitment team are really inept enough to not be able to sign a replacement & Hugo B gets crocked, I guess we muddle through or stick someone like Ethan Sunderland in there. As you say, we’re down anyway.

Exactly, who cares who plays where, if we get rid of all that steaming pile of shit we signed in the summer.

What happens if we play a kid in goal?

Shit, we might lose.

Like we do every fucking week when those clowns, Sa and Johnstone play, anyway.

Mane wouldn’t be playing if we were top half and he’s our best player.

We can’t get any fucking worse than bottom.

 

[Tony Towner]

No, but you could absolutely destroy a young kid and his future career. For what?

 

[Kenny]

We are down
We have a squad where the majority would fuck off tomorrow given the chance
We wouldn't miss them

But...

I would like a tiny bit of pride scrapped out this shit storm of a season. Loading with kids and having half the positions filled with players not really suited to them will just nail down us becoming the worst team in PL history.
If that means holding on to a couple of players in the hope they remain professional in return for an obscene wage then so be it.

Proper clear out and rebuild can start the moment the final whistle goes in game 38.

PS - Sell Johnstone though and replace him with Doc for all i care...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Muddling along with Sa for years when he's pretty much always been a liability and making out we couldn't do any better is one of many recruitment failures.

We should be able to attract a reasonable keeper, more so than other positions.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

I don’t buy the idea you can ruin a youngster throwing them in to early. The ones that have got what it takes will do ok, the others will just have to face the reality they’re not good enough a bit sooner. They’ll get a lot of patience from the crowd who will be very tolerant. If it means we can sell any of the dross like Wolfe for inflated fees I’m fine with it.

 

[Tony Towner]

I don’t buy the idea you can ruin a youngster throwing them in to early. The ones that have got what it takes will do ok, the others will just have to face the reality they’re not good enough a bit sooner. They’ll get a lot of patience from the crowd who will be very tolerant. If it means we can sell any of the dross like Wolfe for inflated fees I’m fine with it.

Ask Nathan Fraser how that went, how it wrecked his mental health and why he's (allegedly) considering retiring?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Problem is the Academy team is not very good at all. The three best keepers are all out on loan (and not playing at a very high level), I'd only really want to have a look at Sutherland, Okoduwa and at a push Chiwome (depending on how he is post-injury) at first team level, the rest would definitely be very much out of their depth.

 

[big mean bunny]

You don't improve as a player being played at a standard above your level. Especially when surrounded by a collective that overall isn't good enough. Elsewhere people were discussing the poor job Wolves do integrating overseas players. You can't willingly lose and then want progression.

 

[Jinky]

Ask Nathan Fraser how that went, how it wrecked his mental health and why he's (allegedly) considering retiring?

For every Fraser there’s a Mane. Obviously you’re not going to sling in a 15 year old kid and play them for 10-15 games in a row, but eventually you’ve got to try the kids out occasionally. We’ve basically got a 6 month pre-season for next season so might as well take advantage of it. That doesn’t mean playing a full team of 16-18 year olds every week, though.

 

[Tony Towner]

For every Fraser there’s a Mane. Obviously you’re not going to sling in a 15 year old kid and play them for 10-15 games in a row, but eventually you’ve got to try the kids out occasionally. We’ve basically got a 6 month pre-season for next season so might as well take advantage of it. That doesn’t mean playing a full team of 16-18 year olds every week, though.

You play them if they are ready to step up. Ojinnaka is the kid who has been on the bench the most outside of Mane, he's gone to Shrewsbury on loan because that's the level he's at currently. Ironically that's also where Fraser would have gone if Shi hadn't Shi'd and he may be in a very different to place now because of it.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Sad about Fraser but loads of kids end up in a similar situation without ever playing in the PL.

 

[leedswolf]

For every Fraser there’s a Mane.

There absolutely isn't...

 

[Jinky]

There absolutely isn't...

You understand the point being made, my friend.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Sad about Fraser but loads of kids end up in a similar situation without ever playing in the PL.

Fraser's situation lays on Jeff Shi's door. How fucking irresponsible of a person to send a young kid on loan to a foreign country and just let him wing it, without any real help. His development would have been just fine in Championship or League One, Two.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I don’t buy the idea you can ruin a youngster throwing them in to early. The ones that have got what it takes will do ok, the others will just have to face the reality they’re not good enough a bit sooner. They’ll get a lot of patience from the crowd who will be very tolerant. If it means we can sell any of the dross like Wolfe for inflated fees I’m fine with it.

How long as it been since Fraser and Chiwome were sharing duties were up front?

All forgotten though it seems.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Sad about Fraser but loads of kids end up in a similar situation without ever playing in the PL.

I'd venture him getting thrown in at the deep end and playing in the PL is exactly what created his "sad" situation.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

You play them if they are ready to step up. Ojinnaka is the kid who has been on the bench the most outside of Mane, he's gone to Shrewsbury on loan because that's the level he's at currently. Ironically that's also where Fraser would have gone if Shi hadn't Shi'd and he may be in a very different to place now because of it.

Also if we hadnt had the oh so clever Shi just making do with kids, we'd have very likely made another semi final.

A semi competent forward would have made all the difference, even under GON against Coventry.

For all the abuse Hwang gets, Fraser and Chiwome were FAR less effective.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

I'd venture him getting thrown in at the deep end and playing in the PL is exactly what created his "sad" situation.

Nah. The fact he scored a cracking goal against Brentford and quicker then Usain Bolt he was shifted out on loan to a backend club in Belgium.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

I'd venture him getting thrown in at the deep end and playing in the PL is exactly what created his "sad" situation.

Any youngster that fails to make the grade will be disappointed. Some will take it worse than others. The loan abroad probably did far more damage to his mental health than failing to deliver in the PL.