January 2022 Transfer Thread

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Wasn't the gameplan for them to ultimately make Wolves a self-sufficient club through trading and "alternative revenue streams"?

Someone on here probably has the numbers, but just to get the club to where it is now, I think they pumped in the best part of £100 mil if not more. This will be a loan in all but name and I expect to see them continue to manage the club to within its means whilst they recoup their initial investment. There's also a school of thought that with a looming Chinese economic crisis of the scale of Japan in the 1990s, we should be happy that the club is being positioned to be self-sufficient.

I don't have much of an issue Fosun's approach (apart from the woefully inadequate communication), just so long as we're not going backwards as we clearly were last season. Even before the Chinese government intervention, we were never going to be the next Citeh - people just made assumptions that we were, based on Fosun's market cap.

I largely agree with your post, however the bold bit is wrong, people made "assumptions" based on what Fosun/Shi said themselves.

 

[Throbber3]

Yeah they invested £125m, but our value has increased by more than that, so it's covered.

They're mugging themselves off if they think they can break into, and remain in, the top 6, whilst breaking even in the accounts

Careful, someone will shout heresy

 

[Throbber3]

They're mugging themselves off if they think they can remain in the premier league for the medium term whilst making a profit or breaking even in the accounts

Fixed it for you.

 

[Tredman]

Myopic

Fair point, but that was diagnosed when i was 9 so probably not relevent

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Because results far outweigh the input or backing.

It’s totally unsustainable past this season.

It must be demoralising for players who know we are not far away AGAIN from Europe but don’t seem keen to make the necessary additions.

We have over performed this season with the squad we have .

I hope I am wrong but it feels as if we have hit as good as it gets under Fosun .

Colour me in the underwhelmed camp

Sentence by sentence this is utter bollocks or assumption.

Given the investment in the team and therefore the players available to the managers over the last few years - we are most definitely a "mid-table side" and in the Premier League that is anywhere between 7th and 14th and that's where we have finished so results do not far outweigh anything.

It has been more or less the same for the past few seasons and has been sustainable.

Players always seem very content, tight knit and have a common cause. They don't act or play like they are demoralised.

I will give you the last two as overly pessimistic opinion.

 

[Throbber3]

Sentence by sentence this is utter bollocks or assumption.

Given the investment in the team and therefore the players available to the managers over the last few years - we are most definitely a "mid-table side" and in the Premier League that is anywhere between 7th and 14th and that's where we have finished so results do not far outweigh anything. Seems like settling for mid table mediocrity though

It has been more or less the same for the past few seasons and has been sustainable. And plenty grumbled about that too

Players always seem very content, tight knit and have a common cause. They don't act or play like they are demoralised. For now. It depends if they get their heads turned which is easily done

I will give you the last two as overly pessimistic opinion. Thanks

It is ok to disagree you know. I don’t resort to the utter bollocks school of thought or subscribe to it . It is an odd thing that three of our best performances of the season have been defeats to Spurs Leicester and Man United. This same forum thinks that being two points from Spurs means we are competing with Spurs. It’s nonsense. Let’s just see. I will be amazed if this Unstrengthened squad is two points off Spurs come May .

But it’s only my opinion

 

[AndyWolves]

Since when is mid table PL beneath us?

 

[Dinowolf]

I'd love to have a new signing or two to add to the squad but I suppose injuries aside it would be very hard for someone breaking into the team seeing how much of an well oiled machine we have become.

I want a midfielder but who is going to break up arguably the best midfield pairing in the league ATM.

Good first post

 

[Alan]

Per transfermarkt, since 2017/2018 we have the 11th highest transfer expenditure in England.

 

[Throbber3]

Per transfermarkt, since 2017/2018 we have the 11th highest transfer expenditure in England.

70m on Fabio and Semedo rather distorts that for me .
Who are the top 10?

 

[Alan]

70m on Fabio and Semedo rather distorts that for me .
Who are the top 10?

 

[Carsy]

Yeah they invested £125m, but our value has increased by more than that, so it's covered.

They're mugging themselves off if they think they can break into, and remain in, the top 6, whilst breaking even in the accounts

On becoming the next City - it was literally Fosun's stated aim, to develop us into an elite club challenging for honours, and that money wasn't a problem.

Unfortunately he didn't have a fucking clue how much that would cost

I think the last statement is the most Apt. It would costs 100’s of millions. I imagine they maybe just didn’t realise that? And with FFP I’m not sure how it’s possible.

Alternatively they just spouted a load of BS to get people excited.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

We've made the 2nd highest amount of signings! (and the most sales)

 

[Carsy]

Not sure if anyone has seen the EBay competition, but a pub by me has won and have roberto Carlos turning out for them for a game.

Now that’s a January signing!

 

[Nando]

We've made the 2nd highest amount of signings! (and the most sales)

I'm pretty sure that (bizarrely) includes returning loanees.

 

[Carsy]

We've made the 2nd highest amount of signings! (and the most sales)

Quality over quantity please. Half of our signings play for grasshoppers

 

[Mel Evo]

70m on Fabio and Semedo rather distorts that for me .
Who are the top 10?

I think if we want to see a LFL table, with players we don't think were worth the fee paid removed to stop distortion, then we might need to get a bigger team of researchers on the job

Hopefully you won't think I imagine everything is absolutely fine. Indeed the concerns that fuel many of the more negative feelings on here are ones I share. Evidently we are too light in CM and we have no adequate coverage for one significant injury. Equally, I'm glad we haven't blown money over the years on the sort of garbage that you see some of those clubs above us in the spend table doing, often on deadline day. I'm glad that, in part, that means we seem to have a motivated team working hard for each other and are easy to like. I don't want us to be 'in' for some overpaid journeyman figuratively or literally sitting at an airport trying to decide which last minute bid to fly off to accept. If that's 'backing' I don't want it. I had, perhaps, probably, naively bought in to the idea that we would be making cannier signings of players motivated to be part of our project as part of theirs. So where I do feel disappointed is that not only did Vitinha not work out but that we don't have an equivalent acquisition, perhaps one more ready to make an immediate contribution, already sorted. That does seem highly unlikely to ever be delivered in January though, so this summer is clearly a big window.

 

[Johnny75]

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I wouldn't trust Transfermkt their values can't be trusted and they only put fees in they can find.

They also double count players which is weird.

 

[Throbber3]

I wouldn't trust Transfermkt their values can't be trusted and they only put fees in they can find.

They also double count players which is weird.

The scary thing from that table is that 140 have come in and 144 have left more than any other team in that list. How many of those 140 were oven ready first teamers? 10? The last three years we have spent squat

 

[Jinky]

"Wolves have offered 6m euro (+20% of next sale) for Partizan striker Marko Milovanovic (18). If the move comes to fruition, the striker will most likely be loaned back to the Serbian club"

Grasshoppers will be furious.