January 2022 Transfer Thread

[Del Woppio]

If linguistic semantics are the strength of the argument, then you're on the wrong side of it

 

[AndyWolves]

We have spent money, of course we have.

The magnitude of the spending is the question though, we've only spent what has been generated through player trading.

Why haven't we spent money generated by the club through things like sky, ticket sales, sponsorship etc is the question

 

[Paul]

Zero net spend for two years. That's not spending money. Despite the manager and even some players literally asking in the press for more players

Aaah net spend, that's not what you said, but anyway, please don't assume that I'm saying we don't need players, that is seemingly obvious, what I was objecting to is the numerous tin foil hat theories of why we didn't buy this player or that, that are stated with so much authority but stark evidence.

 

[The Bear]

If linguistic semantics are the strength of the argument, then you're on the wrong side of it

"Zero net spend for two years. That's not spending money."

That statement is 100% linguistic semantics!

 

[Del Woppio]

No, it's logic.

If I walk in the bookies with £100, make a bunch of bets and come out with £100, I haven't won £100. I've won nothing and lost nothing.

When people say we haven't spent any bloody money, it's 100% obvious what they're saying, and the semantic argument is just an attempt to distract from the fact that (ooh a circle) we haven't spent any bloody money for two years.

 

[Paul]

No, it's logic.

If I walk in the bookies with £100, make a bunch of bets and come out with £100, I haven't won £100. I've won nothing and lost nothing.

When people say we haven't spent any bloody money, it's 100% obvious what they're saying, and the semantic argument is just an attempt to distract from the fact that (ooh a circle) we haven't spent any bloody money for two years.

Ok lets reverse this one, if I sell my car for £1000 and then buy another car for £1000, have I not spent £1000 on a car ???

 

[WolfMan]

No, it's logic.

If I walk in the bookies with £100, make a bunch of bets and come out with £100, I haven't won £100. I've won nothing and lost nothing.

When people say we haven't spent any bloody money, it's 100% obvious what they're saying, and the semantic argument is just an attempt to distract from the fact that (ooh a circle) we haven't spent any bloody money for two years.

I think your logic is slightly flawed here to he honest, your saying Chelsea didn't spend anything this year even after buying a £97m striker?

I'm not defending the club the transfer window was a joke but to say we didn't spend anything is a bit misleading.

 

[Del Woppio]

Ok lets reverse this one, if I sell my car for £1000 and then buy another car for £1000, have I not spent £1000 on a car ???

Your car spend is zero.

I'm done though, you can make another analogy that defends our two years of going backwards now and say you've won

 

[Del Woppio]

I think your logic is slightly flawed here to he honest, your saying Chelsea didn't spend anything this year even after buying a £97m striker?

I'm not defending the club the transfer window was a joke but to say we didn't spend anything is a bit misleading.

We're talking two years though, so if you want to make that comparison you can't ignore their £170m net spend the previous summer.

Even then, this summer....yes, zero net spend. They sold a load of shite they didn't want for £100m, and bought one of the best strikers in the world. We sold some shit and then tried to buy Kieffer Moore

 

[WolfMan]

We're talking two years though, so if you want to make that comparison you can't ignore their £170m net spend the previous summer.

Even then, this summer....yes, zero net spend. They sold a load of shite they didn't want for £100m, and bought one of the best strikers in the world. We sold some shit and then tried to buy Kieffer Moore

And if you extend it to 5 years our net spend is £37m per year and there's is £23m. I've got no problem with having a low net spend to be honest, if it's done properly it can be very effective. The bigger issue affecting the squad at the minute is what positions/players the money is being spent on.

 

[The Bear]

No, it's logic.

If I walk in the bookies with £100, make a bunch of bets and come out with £100, I haven't won £100. I've won nothing and lost nothing.

You have spent £100 and won £100.

And you've still put your hand in your pocket and laid out £100 on bets in the first place.

 

[Tony Towner]

Can we just draw a line under this semantics bollocks?

 

[The Bear]

I have to assume people would be a lot happier if we'd have kept Doherty and Jota and had them sitting on the bench while Semedo and Traore start every game. After all, that would mean we spent loads of money.

 

[Tony Towner]

Perhaps don't spend the money on a £36m vanity project and a vastly over priced full back?

 

[MARKakaJIM]

We have spent money, of course we have.

The magnitude of the spending is the question though, we've only spent what has been generated through player trading.

Why haven't we spent money generated by the club through things like sky, ticket sales, sponsorship etc is the question

Player purchases aren't the only outgoing just the same as player sales aren't the only income.

 

[AndyWolves]

Perhaps don't spend the money on a £36m vanity project and a vastly over priced full back?

You could argue that spending whatever Sanches would cost would be spending money on a crock.

If / when he got injured the club would have been pilloried for spending such a big sum on a player with very questionable injury history.

Would Sanches then get added to that list as a failure?

 

[Tony Towner]

You could argue that spending whatever Sanches would cost would be spending money on a crock.

If / when he got injured the club would have been pilloried for spending such a big sum on a player with very questionable injury history.

Would Sanches then get added to that list as a failure?

As the proposed deal was a season long loan with the option to buy next Summer then no.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Perhaps don't spend the money on a £36m vanity project and a vastly over priced full back?

Let's be honest, the cash only comes into when people are unhappy about something.

Fabio and Semedo could've rocked up on free transfers and people would still be whinging if results weren't right, the club would be pilloried for doing it on the cheap or something. On the reverse no-one would care if the club had spent double on them if they had landed another 7th placed finish last season.

 

[Tony Towner]

Let's be honest, the cash only comes into when people are unhappy about something.

Fabio and Semedo could've rocked up on free transfers and people would still be whinging if results weren't right, the club would be pilloried for doing it on the cheap or something. On the reverse no-one would care if the club had spent double on them if they had landed another 7th placed finish last season.

Nope, you can read the thoughts of me and many others about the Fabio signing at the time if you wish. It was then and remains now ridiculous

 

[Paul]

and a vastly over priced full back?

I thought the signing was universally welcomed at the time, are we using the gift of hindsight