Is Bruno Lage A Good Manager Or Should He Go?

[Deutsch Wolf]

I know, it's Jim Jones territory.

He's one of the worst managers I've ever seen us have.

 

[Tony Towner]

The lack of a striker comments obviously have merit, it's 2 years since we've had a decent one, but totally misses the complete lack of chances created for whoever would be playing there. By and large you'd be asking him to create goals from very little. A decent striker would be good for probably 6/7 additional goals a season the way we play. It'd be welcome, but it's not the answer to the issues

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

There are some SHIT managers on that list. All of them got sacked apart from Hoddle, who everyone on here would have happily sacked given the choice.

Lage is massively underperforming all of them, with this squad. He is appalling.

 

[jd1981]

The lack of striker comments only have credibility if we were missing hatfuls of chances.
Reality is we don’t, creativity is just as much an issue. Even still with a lack of a CF he’s not playing with MM levels of squad from the 11/12 season. It absolutely doesn’t warrant 1 win in 16 and only scoring 9 times.

 

[Lupollet]

He’s the manager and the coach. It’s his job to make the best of what ever resources he has. He is not succeeding in his job.

He is also damaging the brand, reducing revenue and boring everyone who watches shitless.

He blames everyone but himself, and he talks unintelligible garbage whenever he opens his mouth.

He spends all week coming up with the same tactics that failed last weekend, and as soon as the game varies from his hypothetical game-plan in any way (usually be the opponents scoring) then he has no clue what to do and he just waves his arms about and thinks over excuses until 80 mins when he replaces one of the fullbacks.

 

[Dinowolf]

If you've played the game you can imagine what it's like to be in a position to create a chance, you lift your head and find there is no-one to pass to in a goal scoring position. So instead of creating the chance, you are forced to play the ball elsewhere, sideways or backwards and after 2 years of doing this, it becomes the default.

So in my opinion, having a proper striker/goalscorer getting into the box into goal scoring positions regularly, it should eventually change the default.

 

[Tony Towner]

If you've played the game you can imagine what it's like to be in a position to create a chance, you lift your head and find there is no-one to pass to in a goal scoring position. So instead of creating the chance, you are forced to play the ball elsewhere, sideways or backwards and after 2 years of doing this, it becomes the default.

So in my opinion, having a proper striker/goalscorer getting into the box into goal scoring positions regularly, it should eventually change the default.

And if you've watched Wolves under Lage you'd know those is not how we play even with a striker. It's just the latest excuse grasped by the diminishing number of Bruno truthers

 

[Dinowolf]

And if you've watched Wolves under Lage you'd know those is not how we play even with a striker. It's just the latest excuse grasped by the diminishing number of Bruno truthers

I agree with the amended version of your first sentence.
It's why we need to get rid of Lage, as soon as possible, to create the scenario we need for our players to score goals.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The way we set up our front three is insane. Literally right across the width of the pitch. You look at Grealish's goal last week, we will never ever score one like that as it stands. The opposite wide player is never anywhere near the box.

Can't remember who it was last week who was trying to tell me that we get more players into the penalty area now. No we do not.

 

[Sedgley Wolf]

Shared Deutsch's stat with a mainly pro-Lage WhatsApp group last night.

The responses were along the lines of 'well, only three games since the transfer window, give him chance'

Got a feeling that some of them will start to turn should Saturday be like almost every single game since February.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't understand the "give him a chance" stuff. What do you think is going to improve, what have you possibly seen across FORTY FIVE games to suggest he's actually any good? You might, maybe, be able to pick out a dozen genuinely good performances (ie where we've actually threatened in an attacking sense, looked like a team that's properly joined up, where we've objectively been the better team). Which is shocking.

If Costa turns out to be rubbish - as he's done very little now for years, and hasn't even played for months - and Raul isn't back/isn't any good, so we have the "no striker" excuse - do we just continue losing and hardly scoring, as we sink to the foot of the table and say "well what do you expect, he doesn't have a goalscorer".

Not so long ago everyone was demanding we sign a new central midfielder. That would be the difference. We did, we bought a brilliant one for a club record fee. We are still fucking dreadful.

You can give him as many good players as you like, nothing will change, he is a very, very poor manager.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We're seven games in now. 18% of the season. We haven't played well once.

Leeds - had a 25 minute spell at the start of the second half where we looked decent but the only real chance was off a set piece. Otherwise were dreadful in possession and the keeper was in clown car mode. Went behind, never looked like scoring

Fulham - had a bit of joy early on down the channels. Missed two golden chances. But fizzled out as the game went on, then they missed a penalty. Quite good that they settled for a draw afterwards. 37 degree heat, didn't use all our subs

Tottenham - knocked it around nicely in the first half. Created very little. Went behind, didn't even have a shot on target afterwards

Newcastle - scored a wondergoal, then sat back like a shite version of a Colin Lee team. Goal was so obviously on the cards. Should have lost in the end, they had more than enough chances

Bournemouth - absolutely abysmal standard of football

Southampton - poor match, we're two points up because they messed up an open goal from one yard

Man City - easiest game they'll have all season. Effectively over after 1 minute because we never respond to going behind

I don't see where the green shoots are. That's not directed at anyone on here, it's the wider fanbase. I genuinely cannot understand it. Better managers and better men (Lage is a wanker) have been pilloried and hounded out for far less.

 

[Woburn Wolf]

We have 3 goals and 6 points from 6 games. Lucky to have 6 points too as Fulham missed a penalty and Southampton messed up an open goal from 1 yard.

We have 4 wins from 20 games.

We are shit.

We are not shit. The coach is though.

 

[Woburn Wolf]

Final 14 games of every Wolves manager in the last 30 years (league only):

Turner: W6 D3 L5
Taylor: W4 D4 L6
McGhee: W4 D4 L6
Lee: W3 D4 L7
Jones: W4 D5 L5
Hoddle: W6 D5 L3
McCarthy: W3 D4 L7
Solbakken: W3 D2 L9
Saunders: W5 D1 L8
Jackett: W4 D6 L4
Zenga: W4 D4 L6
Lambert: W7 D2 L5
Nuno: W4 D3 L7
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Lage: W1 D5 L8

So the much maligned Hoddle was not so bad after all.

 

[jd1981]

Keeping managers for a long period doesn’t equate to thing’s getting better.
It’s a myth that a good coach needs loads of time to work with new additions.
Look if he was handed a bunch of free transfers and young loanees then fair enough but he has been given 3 players of £20m plus so they should be able to slot straight in.
It’s also obvious a couple of senior pro’s wanted out asap and were hardly notorious for trouble making in fact the opposite.
There’s nothing redeeming about him his football is painful to watch, results are atrocious, and his personality is very dour. He talks delusional drivel after games too.
Only reason you can possibly give him any leeway is that he came 10th last season, but remember from February it would’ve be nearly impossible for us to come lower than 8th.
Said it before 5-7 games is a bad run, 16 games is a sign that things are irreversible.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He really was (bloody loved a dead rubber win too, it's what got him his permanent contract here).

But it illustrates how genuinely awful Lage's performance is.

 

[Tony Towner]

Depends if you watched us under him, very Lagesque in many ways and although he finished 7th from memory we were something like 10 points off 6th. He sucked all the fun out of watching Wolves, I gave up my season ticket after that season as did many others. The current bloke is doing similar

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We already couldn't make the playoffs (minimum requirement) by Easter Monday. That's when Jez called the season "a disaster" in his programme notes and tried to row back later saying they were "spicy" to "boost sales". Er Jez, how would I know what you're going to say in advance, that makes no sense.

 

[Keef]

There’s a lot on people on social media reckoning Costa is the missing piece and he’ll be banging goals in for fun, he’s not going to be Willian levels of bad, but he’s not going to be peak ronaldo either, we’ll still limp along doing not a lot

 

[Langers]

It's like inviting Jamie Oliver over to cook you a Sunday dinner, before you mention that we've no pans, no oven, no ingredients.

We never look like even creating a goalscoring chance, so having someone there to finish is somewhat irrelevant.